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Ben,

Check your PM's mate ... re custom springs.

Ohh ofcourse yeah ... keep it in HR 2x only ... I was wondering how it both front and rear 4.1 would effect my low range though. I guess it would raise the gearing of low range a little bit ... compromise.

Ben,

I've no real world idea how Daves 4.1 Rover axle would work with my motor and gearbox tranny case setup ... if he has only the one I'm not sure how I could try it out - you have to have matching diff ratio's don't you? 4.1 will give slightly taller gearing I guess than 4.7 - is that a help to ...

Well ... just got offered some 84 Rangie axles disc to disc so looks like the Rangie axled conversion will be going ahead after all.

I'm a Brizzie boy mate and have family on the Gold Coast - I can easily zip up anytime to say g'day, see family, and meet up all at once. Let me know when you are going to be in country again? - I might well be interested in a gearbox by then also depending on how things pan out.

Thanks Ben,

I'll stop asking questions now and just go assimilate your great info - always informative and instructive.

I'll likely go with the Salisbury and I was lucky to grab a Yank Four Wheeler mag today that had a strip down on a Dana 60 which will give me a bit of insight into the Sals as ...

Hey Ben,

I spoke to Dickyjoe tonight re the Rangie axles and apparently they DON'T have the calipers on them! He had bought them with the idea of doing the same thing we have talked about but thought it impossible - subsequently by telling him it was he has decided he might just keep them now ...

G'day Si,

The first three numbers on the Holden are 742 and 743 on the intake manifold - I'm not too sure what the carb is as I'm no expert on recognizing the different types as yet. As to mods, I started out wanting to do fairly basic stuff, just basic bolstering and strengthening generally ...

Ben,

More good food for thought there ... so I can remove the RR diffs from the casings and still have the disc brakes but with 4.7 ratio from the standard Rover diffs - ok. The engine as you know is a Holden 186 but I'm no mechanical expert mate - as you can tell - and this entire rebuild is the ...

Thats a good look with the RR axles, you can barely notice the difference actually - thanks for the link. Hmmm re the gearboxes - so with my standard set-up the 88 was fine with my Suffix A mainbox etc but your saying that I'll need a C box or later whether I go with the RR axles or HRTC? Ok, so the ...

Hey Ben,

Yeah, the RR axles will ofcourse have the discs on them ... I got myself caught up thinking of the Sals again! I don't know the ECR site by the way do you have a link? I was planning to swap my 110 rims with Richard for Series 1 Disco rims running 285's - this wouldn't require extended ...

Whoah ... ok!

Now this is some new food for thought. With the wider track using the RR axles on the 88 how far out of the standard Series arches would the wheels protrude ... would I need to add extended wheel arches? I guess the look on an 88 would be allot like a D90 in some respects, no? Ok, so ...

Thanks Ben ... very instructive!

Thats interesting re- the RR axles ( which I have zero experience of ) because Richard ( Dickyjoe ) from Blackstump is getting rid of his RR axles and I was possibly going to grab them off him - with the idea that they may come in useful for a Disc conversion at a ...

I do indeed ... just want to make good choices for it whilst rebuilding it - I'm not planning on going through this again any time soon!

Now - I'm cool to do it - can you provide any pics showing the set-up with extended shackles and wedges etc for my reference? I haven't seen the setup in the ...

Just put it in already :roll: :finger:

Bloody ball breaker ... I'm doing research here! :lol:

Don't listen to the LR Nazis, FFS how is having to take spare axles when wheeling better than swapping in a proper diff and much stronger axles ? Also don't forget you are running a Holden Inline six ...

Ben,

Tis true mate, I was actually quite surprised by the lack of enthusiasm about this swap and I have tried to explain the Holden 6 thing to Europeans and Yanks but they don't quite get it. When you say the advantages are simplicity and cost ... the nay sayers seem to claim the exact opposite ...

Here's a few other thoughts ...

In my opinion there's no need to do it. The Rover axle is strong enough for an 88 even with a V8 in it. Good enough for a range Rover Classic.................. Lot of messing around for a big gain in unsprung weight. Keep it standard and use the money for another ...

Thanks all ...

Well there are a bunch of people who seem to think doing the conversion is pretty much a waste of space. I have asked about this on a few fora to get various responses and there is definately a school who say keep the stock rover rears and just buy new halfshafts or strenghtened ...

Hey Si.

Had a look mate and the engine sits well above where the crank pully would be ... I assume you are talking about the lower rotater disc of the fan belt pully? Mine sits well above the front PTO hole.

Si,

I forgot about pics of my engine mounts, not sure I have any but I'll go through my pics and see what I can find.

Ok, this is crap but it's all I have right now ...

Hey Si!

My drivetrain bypasses beneath the PTO hole in the chassis mid section and goes clear beneath and to the right of it slightly when looking forward. Here's a few pics ... you can see the trajectory of the prop running from the back of the tranmission brake.

http://www.imagebulk.com/images ...

Hey Ben!

Long time mate and good to hear from you at last - I actually posted something in your direction on the longfields thread a few down on the front page explaining my current situation ... longish story. Finally am lifting out the engine and gearbox on friday with a mate who is doing a 109 ...

G'day Mr.

I don't have army shackles mate, no ... I had contemplated it at one point but I am hoping to do Ben ( Isuzurovers ) custom springs job on the rover also to get added articulation ... hope he turns up on forum soon since he has a sals on his 2a truck also I think and has done the shave ...

G'day Slunster, ;)

As I said above mate, the main thing I was worried about was matching the gearing without having to bollocks around with the front diff. I'm well aware that It will require re-welding the spring brackets on the Sals further inboard and the prop will require shortening ... I'm not ...

Ahhh Bruce!

Sweet mate, thats all I needed to know! :D So essentially no change to the front diff and the sals will just slap right on with no hassles; apart from the usual adjustments. Anything else I need to know about the conversion - hints, tips or tricks?

BTW* I'm talking about the Sals on ...

G'day Si ... ( another one! )

I would do the swap, also look at putting S3 24spline shafts in the front as well.

So is that the only change I need to make to the front axle/diff set-up to safely run the rear sals?

What holden conversion do you have? I have the rod shop one fitted - this ...

Thanks gents!

I've always thought that it was an excellent conversion from what I had read and heard from others over the years but I'm getting a bit of static over the choice from another guy who says ...

I've already went through the 3.54 conversion route with a series LR and I can tell you ...

I'm doing a restoration and have the opportunity to grab a Salisbury diff - not sure yet what the ratio is but at this point I am trying to reason out the argument for and against the conversion.

1 - Some people seem to say no go - you have to up the gearing of the front diff to match the rear so ...

Hey Ben!

Simon here from the old Black Stump forum ... long time mate. Listen, when the hell are you returning to Australia - I could still use your help with lets see here ...

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# - Your custom leaf springs set up! :)

I've only been able to get back to the ...