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I could not resist throwing this in - there seems to be a bit of confusion in this forum about just what a "ute" actually is.
A trayback (or flatbed) is not a ute but a pickup, while a ute is a styleside.
That is based on the description of the world's very first ute by its designer - the 1934 A model Ford, designed by the late Lew Bandt, who called it a "coupe utility".
Of course, the Suzuki Sierra styleside has to complicate things by being a softop, while Bandt's design was the first with a steel roof incorporated into the body. So it might be a matter of argument as to whether a styleside Sierra is really a "ute" with its steel rollover hoop, but a steel-roofed trayback is still a "pickup".
Okay, let the bunfight begin!
Cheers - Longbaser.
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According to a television doco I saw about utes and pickups, the oficial difference between the two is that a ute back is part of the rest of the cab, like the Commodores and all the old Holden and Ford utes of the past. A pickup has a separate back which can be removed from the cab. This was why the ute was an Aussie invention. The pickup was and still is common in the US F150s etc and so if we want to be technical all the Jap utes (Hilux, Navara etc) are in fact pickups. That is why the yanks call them that. We have over the years confused ourselves and lumped them all together. You must remember that prior to the Holden one tonner being introduced there wasn't an Aussie produced vehicle that the rear body could be removed and replaced with an alloy tray. Now, even the Falcon "ute" has a separate tray, but we should really be calling it a pickup if we want to be true to the definition of a utility. So, all of us who drive Hiluxs etc do not own utes at all. At least we don't call them Hardbodies over here.
Utes Have
B&S Stickers
12321431243 Arials and no radio
Truck Mudflaps
Cow horns
running lights every 15mm
XXXX or VB or Bundy stickers
RM Williams stickers
A V-8 or a 6 that wants to sound like a v8
Pickups have
A gun rack with a 12Ga and a min of 30/06 cal rifle and a "fishin' pole"
A meter of body lift, but still the orig. suspension and tyres
A 3 toothed driver named a) Cletus b) Jethro c) Billybob d) Chuck e) Biff
A V-8 usually side valve
Bad JuJu wrote:Utes Have
B&S Stickers
12321431243 Arials and no radio
Truck Mudflaps
Cow horns
running lights every 15mm
XXXX or VB or Bundy stickers
RM Williams stickers
A V-8 or a 6 that wants to sound like a v8
Pickups have
A gun rack with a 12Ga and a min of 30/06 cal rifle and a "fishin' pole"
A meter of body lift, but still the orig. suspension and tyres
A 3 toothed driver named a) Cletus b) Jethro c) Billybob d) Chuck e) Biff
A V-8 usually side valve
Is that from the RTA site
Now im confussed, Ive got a 4 seater panel van that has been cut into a 2 seater ute/pickup and a 2 seater panel van that has a back seat engineered making it a 4 seater, both being SJ40 Sierras. So Dr Phil can you help me figure out what sort of cars I acually have???????????
When i bought my soft top, the guy was telling me how the rego was so expensive because it was registered as a coupe. No idea where that put it in the whole scheme of the stuff above
I agree with BadJuJu, any 4x4 that actually goes offroad, we call a truck (most of the 4x4's up here a diesel anyway). With the zooks, its either a ute, a hardtop, or a soft top. I usually say "...that guys commodore ute..." or "....that guys falcon ute...", so people know what i'm talking about.
Well, you can call your vehicle a Truck if you prefer, but any resemblance an off road Hilux has to say a 10 tonne flat top truck is only in your mind. Just because you think of your pride and joy as a truck does not make it TUFF. I agree we have always considered Commodores and Falcons as utes, but if you are adhering to the offical definitions, the Falcon is now not a ute, but a pickup. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advercating the use of Americanisms into our language, in fact I'm sick of Aussie kids wanting to emulate the Yanks, so maybe substituting the word "truck" for "pickup" is a good Aussie way of retaining our individualism, what little we have left.
Where can I get hold of a Blueys Ute World Sticker saying "Real Aussies drive trucks"?
Ric
Anyone know if we got them suzuki carrys in the 4x4 with a diff lock in Australia, like the one a couple of posts back? You would be forever rolling him end over end if you put a bit of lift under him and some 33's
ricduza wrote:Well, you can call your vehicle a Truck if you prefer, but any resemblance an off road Hilux has to say a 10 tonne flat top truck is only in your mind. Just because you think of your pride and joy as a truck does not make it TUFF. I agree we have always considered Commodores and Falcons as utes, but if you are adhering to the offical definitions, the Falcon is now not a ute, but a pickup. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advercating the use of Americanisms into our language, in fact I'm sick of Aussie kids wanting to emulate the Yanks, so maybe substituting the word "truck" for "pickup" is a good Aussie way of retaining our individualism, what little we have left.
Where can I get hold of a Blueys Ute World Sticker saying "Real Aussies drive trucks"?
Ric
its a diesel, it has the same running gear as a truck, its made like a truck only smaller, its a truck! my mq has the running gear of a truck, only with shorter driveshafts and sitting under a smaller(slightly) body. its a truck!
=SKB= wrote:Pickup or Ute?
SEDAN!!! hehe
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