Disco with nissan diffs?

Post by **Turoa** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:51 am

Bush65 wrote:
mroffroader wrote:...In the rear I will do the cruiser centre purely because its cheap and easy...
A 40 series diff centre will not fit a rover housing.

To fit a rover housing, you will need an 8" toy diff centre (hilux, surf etc).

But a bit of cruiser housing combined with a rover housing, will fit a 40 series centre, wont it?

Post by **mroffroader** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:09 pm

yea...bush65 were chopping up a cruiser and a diso housing to make a cruiser centre with the rest disco so you just bolt back in. It will have custom axles to suit the cruiser centre.

Post by **Reddo** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:59 pm

...Oh and the 40 series is weak in that the inner splines on the output/side gears wear quickly and then fail = and of course second hand ones are pre-worn, often beyond re-use. Get new ones and new axles and you wil be OK for years...but as said fitting will be a nightmare.and Mr Yota's new parts costs are stupendous - more than Rover or Nissan combined

Post by **Slunnie** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:14 pm

Wouldn't it be easier to just fit an entire LC60 front and rear axle then?

Post by **mroffroader** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:57 am

[quote="Slunnie"]Wouldn't it be easier to just fit an entire LC60 front and rear axle then?[/quote]

Sorry whats a LC60???

for ease and cheapness what i am doing is very cheap and very easy and it will be very strong

Post by **Slunnie** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:34 am

Its a Landcruiser 60 series. It has big diffs front and rear and the diffs are already offset to suit Landrover with 4.1 ratios. These diffs are basically the same as the 40 series diffs that you're starting with only wider and the diff nuggets are already in the correct position.

Post by **Turoa** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:09 pm

Slunnie wrote:Wouldn't it be easier to just fit an entire LC60 front and rear axle then?

I dont think they are quite wide enough are they?
+ theres the drum brakes on the rear, and the weak front CV's (though easily replaced with longfields, though $$$)

Post by **DiscoDino** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:39 pm

Unless you have FREE GU diffs, or 404 diffs, or RW2.5 diffs, FREE I say again, there is nothing better pound for pound, $ for $, and Oz of sweat to Oz of sweat, than the Toy Conversion.

Either than or stick to the 29s and the tarmac...

Website · Post by **cooter** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:38 pm

DiscoDino wrote:Unless you have FREE GU diffs, or 404 diffs, or RW2.5 diffs, FREE I say again, there is nothing better pound for pound, $ for $, and Oz of sweat to Oz of sweat, than the Toy Conversion.

Either than or stick to the 29s and the tarmac...

mate gqs are strong and cheap as now

plus wider than rover/toy conversion so a shite load mere stabilerer

Post by **DiscoDino** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:32 am

GQs? I thought they had the worst hubs? my buddies' (2 with GQs) keep blowing hubs (AVM or Warn or OEM) and this is without a front locker...

the CV is also no match for the Longs, granted it is a bit pricier, but it simply is no match...

Final thoughts...(

)...until the Patrol makes it state-side once again, the demand for great parts for it cannot only sprout from Europe, Australia and the Middle East...that's where the Toy has the advantage...

Post by **mroffroader** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:18 am

[quote="DiscoDino"]GQs? I thought they had the worst hubs? my buddies' (2 with GQs) keep blowing hubs (AVM or Warn or OEM) and this is without a front locker...

the CV is also no match for the Longs, granted it is a bit pricier, but it simply is no match...

Final thoughts...(

)...until the Patrol makes it state-side once again, the demand for great parts for it cannot only sprout from Europe, Australia and the Middle East...that's where the Toy has the advantage...[/quote]

mate the nissan diff is only costing me $300NZ!!!!! compare that to the price of a longs kit and i think thats quite cheap!!!

Post by **DiscoDino** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:14 am

In that case, fit two

Website · Post by **cooter** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:24 am

i have not had any dramas with mine but they are standard diffs ie no aftermarket cvs if i went and spent money on aftermarket chromemoly cvs they would be stronger again but havnt broke 1 yet and i drive the arse off of it will let you know if i brake 1

and as for lux diffs we smashed 3 crownwheels in johns lux with 33s so forgive me for not wanting to put them in my truck plus i would of only been standard widths as well so when i weighed up my options gqs were the conversion for me

Post by **redrover3** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:36 pm

Can you get engineering approval for gq diffs. I would have thought that they would increase the track by more than 50mm
Tony

Post by **Turoa** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:06 pm

RedRover - This is NZ, we dont have silly rules like that (I dont think

)

Cooter - could you post some pics of your nissan swaP? I had a look in your nissan diff swap thread, but the pics are gone

MrO is now considering throwing a nissan diff in the rear aswell as it will cost about the same or cheaper than having custom shafts made.

Post by **mroffroader** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:49 pm

[quote="Turoa"]RedRover - This is NZ, we dont have silly rules like that (I dont think

)

Cooter - could you post some pics of your nissan swaP? I had a look in your nissan diff swap thread, but the pics are gone

MrO is now considering throwing a nissan diff in the rear aswell as it will cost about the same or cheaper than having custom shafts made.[/quote]

hes sent the pics to me

.....go on msn and i will show you them

Website · Post by **Maggot4x4** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:55 pm

Turoa wrote: Cooter - could you post some pics of your nissan swaP? I had a look in your nissan diff swap thread, but the pics are gone

Here is a link to some of mine

http://s57.photobucket.com/albums/g228/ ... ?start=all

With the alloy wheels it's the Toyota diffs and with the black sunnies it's the GQ's

Post by **hotrod4x4** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:33 am

Changing your "complete" diffs to GQ, means your track width is now based on a standard GQ track

years ago people shortened diffs to suit, but legally u dont have to, u just have to make sure the tyres are covered.

Website · Post by **cooter** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:57 pm

maggot
do your front control arms run parralel with your chassis anddid you move spring plates in as well as to me they look like rover ones

Post by **mroffroader** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:18 am

Okay guys... I got some nissan diffs ($300 each) and some raduis arms which I have been told you need for the conversion for $150 (these have brand new bushes in them) so In total I got all the stuff for $750NZ

Now I just need to figure out how im going to get it up from the other Island

so when it gets here I will keep you guys informed.....it could take some time though as I have no money left for freight

I can'ty wait!!!

Post by **Reddo** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:25 am

750NZ, what that in Aussie dollars - probably enough to buy some smarties.

Good buy in any event, and worth the PIA to fit, I guess.

Post by **mroffroader** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:15 pm

[quote="Reddo"]750NZ, what that in Aussie dollars - probably enough to buy some smarties.

Good buy in any event, and worth the PIA to fit, I guess.

[/quote]

yea its just a little less than the aussie dollar. Definetly worth the effort

Website · Post by **Maggot4x4** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:18 pm

cooter wrote:maggot
do your front control arms run parralel with your chassis anddid you move spring plates in as well as to me they look like rover ones

Yep, they are all Rover arms, spring plates etc. I kept everything Rover as much as possible and all parts execpt for the panhard and steering arm can be interchanged with any Rangie.

I did this for ease of spares. So I also moved the spring plates in while I was at it, but this in not a "must do".

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