shorty cruiser engine swap: Can this be moved to tojo tech?

Post by **Cluffy** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:51 pm

Am about to attempt an engine & trans swap on a shorty cruiser from the b series diesel to a th700 auto and v8.

A old carbie 350 chev and an injected 5.0 are available to me for around the same price and i was interested in opinions as to what would be the better engine for the swap.

Any help would be appreciated.
thanks
Craig

Post by **known 2** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:20 pm

the chev would be easyer and cheaper . but the holden 304 would be a better swap as no carbie to worrie about and probly more eficiant. they both make around the same power.

Post by **Shorty40** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:42 pm

I'd go with the EFI over a carby

Post by **sudso** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:27 pm

Rev a chev!

A throttle body injection set up will cure the steep hill climb issues

Post by **Cluffy** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:19 am

so we have two for 304 and 1 for 350.
Any other takers?

Post by **cloughy** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:52 am

304 cranks are cheap

355 and EFI

Post by **BowTieGQ** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:09 am

383 cranks are cheap. Go the Chev. You want torque? Start with cubes.

Post by **known 2** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:24 pm

i've drievn a few fj40's with 350 chevs in them and i felt they lacketd torque down low. but were willing rever's.
if ur guna put fuel injection on a 350 why not just use a 304, easy to come buy parts everywere, and can makes heaps of power.
i'm a ford man by the way but i still back the 304 over the 350 cos i have a holden v8 in my ute.

Post by **seaeagle** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:39 pm

are the bellhousing patterns the same on a chev and holden?

Post by **PGS 4WD** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:23 pm

A stock 350 and a stock 304 both make about 120 rw kw in stock form, the 304 has better heads(flow) and EFI is better on angles provided you have a decent swirl pot. I'd check which ones have the better accessories too, some of the old Chev stuffs getting harded to source or you have to convert everthing you have across. You are more likely to get a 304 with power steer and alternator brackets, makes the install easier, the EFI on those is easy.

Joel

Post by **Cluffy** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:22 am

I was allways planning to fit the 350, on dual fuel for economy and any wild angles. was thinking more cubes = more toque down low and would be more 'relaxed' making the power than a smaller engine pushing the same kw's, but then the 5.0 came along.

hmmmm, decisions decisions.

Yes the bolt pattern is the same, a th700 off a 5.0 will fit the chev, but not the g box off the 6 cyl.

Post by **nate_lux** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:58 pm

go the 304

if not happy with it stroke it

Post by **SBC400** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:23 pm

personally i would choose a chev over a holden any day due to the vast amounts of cheap aftermarket parts that are availible for chevs for instance if you wish to change the heads there are literally hundreds of choices out there where as with the holden you really have only one or the option to port the orginals also inlet manifolds and injection setups for chevs are cheap and plentiful

Post by **cloughy** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:27 am

SBC400 wrote:personally i would choose a chev over a holden any day due to the vast amounts of cheap aftermarket parts that are availible for chevs for instance if you wish to change the heads there are literally hundreds of choices out there where as with the holden you really have only one or the option to port the orginals also inlet manifolds and injection setups for chevs are cheap and plentiful

But if you use a 304 you'd have no need to change the heads

Post by **SBC400** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:07 am

yeah well it depends what you want to do i suppose if you intend on leaving everything standard then i guess it doesnt realyy matter but in the event that you want more power it will be heaper and easier to build a chev[/quote]

Post by **Cluffy** » Wed May 09, 2007 6:00 pm

Allright, I bought the chev, cant put any pics up though a my digital camera took a swan dive out the window and refuses to work now.
Got an engine mount kit and t-case adaptor from marks adaptors too.

Has anyone used one of these kits before? and any pics of the mounts on the chassis? I am reluctant to weld on the chassis but it seems thats how its done.
I am having trouble working out where to connect the new engine mount brackets to the chassis. I had to get a later model cruiser crossmember ($77 at the wreckers! daylight robbery) to support the back of the transmission but it has no mounting rubbers on it.
Thanks
Craig

Post by **jessie928** » Thu May 10, 2007 7:32 am

Cluffy wrote:Allright, I bought the chev, cant put any pics up though a my digital camera took a swan dive out the window and refuses to work now.
Got an engine mount kit and t-case adaptor from marks adaptors too.

Has anyone used one of these kits before? and any pics of the mounts on the chassis? I am reluctant to weld on the chassis but it seems thats how its done.
I am having trouble working out where to connect the new engine mount brackets to the chassis. I had to get a later model cruiser crossmember ($77 at the wreckers! daylight robbery) to support the back of the transmission but it has no mounting rubbers on it.
Thanks
Craig

you dont have to weld on the chassis, you can get a dellows type mount that bolts to the front of the block and uses the origional enginemount brackets

Jes

Post by **Cluffy** » Thu May 10, 2007 10:56 am

the dellows/ seatons type mount you are describing wont fit mine as it was a b series diesel and the chassis mounts are too far back to reach

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