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Nutserts or Rivnuts...
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Nutserts or Rivnuts...
I saw something about these things ('rivnuts' or 'nutserts') around somewhere, and wondered if anyone had experience with them...??
I want to attach some tabs to a tube steel snorkel and then bolt it to the A pillar on an 80 series, and short of using tech screws, I thought they might work...
Anyone know anything about them? How they work, if they are pricey, if they are effective or just cosmetic?
Thanks,
I want to attach some tabs to a tube steel snorkel and then bolt it to the A pillar on an 80 series, and short of using tech screws, I thought they might work...
Anyone know anything about them? How they work, if they are pricey, if they are effective or just cosmetic?
Thanks,
'97 HDJ80 - worth the wait
They work great for bolting stuff to thin metal like bodywork, i used 2 of em to attatch the snorkel bracket to my sierra.
The threaded rivets are cheap as chips, its the installation tool that will cost ya, its like a rivet gun except it screws onto the rivet to crush it instead of pulling the pin through.
The threaded rivets are cheap as chips, its the installation tool that will cost ya, its like a rivet gun except it screws onto the rivet to crush it instead of pulling the pin through.
They are absolutely the business.
The tool with a few nuts in each size (4, 5, 6mm) is in the $2-300 mark.
Nuts are about .30 each at a box price from memory for 6mm
I hate self tappers and tekscrews. rivnuts are the answer.
I got my kit from cost less bolts in ringwood (great guys) but any decent bolt/engineering shop should have them.
Steve.
The tool with a few nuts in each size (4, 5, 6mm) is in the $2-300 mark.
Nuts are about .30 each at a box price from memory for 6mm
I hate self tappers and tekscrews. rivnuts are the answer.
I got my kit from cost less bolts in ringwood (great guys) but any decent bolt/engineering shop should have them.
Steve.
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Re: Nutserts or Rivnuts...
that attach same way a rivet works? Put thru hole and squeeze handle, pulls sides up to clamp on?
Re: Nutserts or Rivnuts...
Exactly.bogged wrote:that attach same way a rivet works? Put thru hole and squeeze handle, pulls sides up to clamp on?
I've had an Avdel kit for about 10 years, and I love it. I'm still on the original supply of inserts, so I obviously don't use it THAT much, but it's been used to hold a few things onto the Paj - most recently, the front numberplate on the bullbar. (I broke the M4 mandrel in a blonde moment... one day I'll replace it. )
The M5 inserts are only rated to about 1.3mm steel, the M6 to about 3mm (from memory.) I used M5 on the bullbar, just chamfered the hole a little. From memory, some brands offer a range of inserts to suit different thicknesses of metal - although, once you get beyond 3mm plate you could probably just tap a thread?
Drill hole, dab some rust-kill paint on the bare metal and insert the thread.
Where I used to work, they were too cheap to buy the genuine insert tool - so the toolmaker butchered a pop-rivet gun to do the job.
If you are only doing one or two, you can compress them without the gun. It just takes longer, you tighten a bolt in them while keeping them from turning.
A bit too fiddly to do more than a couple this way though.
I reckon they are fantastic, drill a 9.5mm hole iirc, and put one in for a threaded 6mm hole.
I haven't actually used one for about 10 years though, everywhere I go they say, "a what??" when I ask if they have nutserts.
A bit too fiddly to do more than a couple this way though.
I reckon they are fantastic, drill a 9.5mm hole iirc, and put one in for a threaded 6mm hole.
I haven't actually used one for about 10 years though, everywhere I go they say, "a what??" when I ask if they have nutserts.
This is not legal advice.
I use a nut (which I've drilled the threads out), a couple of washers and a cap screw to install them.chimpboy wrote:If you are only doing one or two, you can compress them without the gun. It just takes longer, you tighten a bolt in them while keeping them from turning.
A bit too fiddly to do more than a couple this way though.
I reckon they are fantastic, drill a 9.5mm hole iirc, and put one in for a threaded 6mm hole.
I haven't actually used one for about 10 years though, everywhere I go they say, "a what??" when I ask if they have nutserts.
Works a treat. But I plan to make a centring spacer to keep them nice and concentric when they crush up.
Oh and unless you like swearing and cursing, don't install them in places where you can't get to the back of them. If they seize to the bolt and spin on you, they and the bolt inside them is there for good.
the proper tool for 4-12mm ones is about $375. i bought one a year ago and have used at least 200 of the felllas!
they are fiddely but often the only solution. the hand rivit style guns are nearly useless. i bought one and returned it the next day. they don't pull steel nutserts only aloy ones
cheers bru
they are fiddely but often the only solution. the hand rivit style guns are nearly useless. i bought one and returned it the next day. they don't pull steel nutserts only aloy ones
cheers bru
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Mrs Bru @ Sunshine Coast Developmental Physiotherapy - www.scdphysio.com.au , Ryano @ Fourbys www.generaltire.com.au Blitzkrieg Motorsport
get nuts from a bolt joint and just do it with a bolt and nut just put the nut on the the rivnut and put in to hole and undo the nut it will bring up the rivnut crushing it. i have wurth one the rachects at work its a dream also have riveter type gun you can also get them as revstud just they have a stud hanging out of them just a good.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BRAND-NE ... enameZWD2VLuxisgood wrote:Yeah there is a kit on egay that is based on that idea (the bolt one).
Surely someone in Melbourne has a kit you can borrow - if you come to Canberra I'll help you out!
is this the one?
yeah they are great, i actually have a air operated nutsert gun. its screws the nutsert onto the end of the gun automatically, and bang with a push of the trigger it sqeezes them, also can set it for different thicknesses of material. Very expensive tho, but a great tool.
IF WE CANT FIND A WAY.....WE WILL MAKE ONE!
There are plenty of ways to install them without the tool. But some people need everything to be "proper".Ruggers wrote:get nuts from a bolt joint and just do it with a bolt and nut just put the nut on the the rivnut and put in to hole and undo the nut it will bring up the rivnut crushing it. i have wurth one the rachects at work its a dream also have riveter type gun you can also get them as revstud just they have a stud hanging out of them just a good.
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