Welded diff

Post by **bravo** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:03 pm

I was thinking about getting my front diff welded up.
Has anyone done this, and how bad is the steering with the hubs locked in offroad?
I have powersteering so that should help. Its will in a FJ73 with the old 3F

Post by **gotoy** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:31 am

Never heard of any body doing this. Steering would be quite hard.

Not recommended to do.

You can of course do it and post a full report.

Post by **Sic Lux** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:39 am

Knowen of one or 2 and it'd just be like a airlocker on all the time so yeah it won't want to turn even with the power steering and did hear one of them saying that at the bottom of the hill passanger would have to jump out and throw a hub in and at the top take it out but in doing that it'd put alot of force on the other cv which is locked when general 4wding. so auto/air/pro lock it if you want a form of locker up front

Website · Post by **killalux** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:39 am

i wouldn't do it, imagine goin down a slippery hill and have to turn halfway down. it just wouldn't happen.
also would strss cv's etc alot.

Post by **bravo** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:35 pm

i know of a few guys with it in mq patrols, heavy steering but they also dont have power steering. None of them have broken cv's yet. Gonna do a diff rebuild at the same time, new bearings, seals etc

Post by **booflux** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:47 pm

If you can afford to rebuild the diff then spend a little extra on an auto locker, even the cheaper ones are better than a welded front.

Post by **dogbreath_48** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:13 pm

I definitely wouldn't do it, having an autolocker in the front is bad enough IMO.

Maybe keep an eye out for a cheap second hand airlocker.

Or weld the back first - Bundys never have the front wheels on the ground anyway do they?

Edit: not a bundy huh?

Post by **bravo** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:38 pm

yeah but i can rebuild the diff and get it welded for $350
where as a lockrite is 500 plus the rebuild

Post by **hulsty** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:34 pm

bravo wrote:yeah but i can rebuild the diff and get it welded for $350
where as a lockrite is 500 plus the rebuild

whats the point of rebuiliding a diff then ruining by welding it up. If your current front diff works alright just weld it up. If your hate it, get a new centre then rebuild. It'll probs break something eventually anyways

cheers

Post by **Zeyphly** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:56 pm

I have a lockrite sitting behind the seat of my hilux doing not very much maybe we can work something out?

Post by **bravo** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:26 pm

i dont think the hiluhink they arx lockrite is the same as the lockrite for a fj73 i te different diffs

Post by **Zeyphly** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:36 pm

sorry to confuse the subject but it is for a cruser. it is with a bearing kit for a diff for my last project.

Post by **gotoy** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:54 pm

This dude really has his heart set on welding his front diff.

Hye bravo, give us a full report together with loadsa piccies.

Post by **bravo** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:08 pm

yer i am pretty keen to see how it goes, if it fucks out a second hand diff will be cheap anyway. The only thing i can see that could break is CV's if the front wheels bounces to much. The guy who is gonna do it had a hilux with a 308 in it with his welded and didnt break anything. After all its just gonna be like having an airlocker turned on all the time

Post by **dogbreath_48** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:11 pm

Well it's lucky you asked us!

Post by **Sic Lux** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:33 pm

bravo wrote:The guy who is gonna do it had a hilux with a 308 in it with his welded and didnt break anything.
After all its just gonna be like having an airlocker turned on all the time

firstly did the hilux even get started if i even thought about a V8 with stock cv's they'd break with the thought of it As they are piss weak cv's. after all when it won't turn you can disengage a airlocker but hey weld it then we can see your wanted ad for cheap auto or airlocker

Post by **bravo** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:45 pm

I thought a few more people may have done this before, but you all think its a bad idea, i may have to reconsider

Post by **chunderlicious** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:57 pm

done it. woks awsome. carry a spare CV bell or 2 and a hub aswell. works awsome, just unlock a hub if it is too hard. when you CAN afford a locker (if ever) then they replace the whole hemisphere anyway. steering is just like having the steering stops wound right out. not much turn lock to lock just 3 point everything if need be.

done it and didnt mind it.

Post by **hjsixty** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:50 am

agreed...

Its not too bad an idea...
I've welded front diff on my 60.
Steering is a little harder. Only really tested it out on the beach so far though. Its great in the sand.

Post by **ausyota** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:23 am

I wouldnt do it after seeing how hard it is to steer the lux with the front ARB locked in.
In a trail only rig I would definately think about welding the rear though.

Post by **gotoy** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:42 pm

Even welding the rear diff is a little cumbersome.

I can't wait to read Bravo's report on his/her front welded diff

Post by **bravo** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:24 pm

i am gonna put a lockrite in now, may be welding the rear though

Post by **chunderlicious** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:09 pm

lockrite works pretty much the same as welded front, youll find it quite hard to steer etc. however i dont know this from ACTUAL experience the diff i sold with a lokka in stopped wicked turning and blew alot of CVs

Post by **TEAMRPM** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:31 pm

bravo wrote:i am gonna put a lockrite in now, may be welding the rear though

i wouldnt recommend it!

youd have a better affect putting a lockrite in tha arse end. leave the front open if ya gonna lockrite it or weld it. youll only blow cvs and crash your bus.

lsd or airlocker is the go but if cost is an issue.. lsd or possibly CIG. i dont recommend cig cause its farkn harsh on everything.

Post by **gotoy** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:43 pm

Put the lockrite in the rear and leave the front open. Save some cash and buy a proper locker for your front.

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