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steering extension (for bodylift)

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steering extension (for bodylift)

Post by cjdeane10 »

Hi,

i am going to put in a 2" lift kit this weekend (finally got my butt into gear), and a comment was made about extending the steering wheel column... by adding another steering column spacer, and longer bolts?

Will the 'biscuit' in this kit be enough? Is it the right part?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Polyurethane-Bus ... dZViewItem

or are we talking about the 'rag joint'? http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/samsteering.htm

Its the same thing, isnt it? :?

i wont be buying this item, as i am sure i can get the bush i need for cheaper at the wreckers.
Just wanna know i am in the right ballpark. :roll:


Thanks again for all the help already!

p.s. (nice quality lift kit, by the way - thanks just cruisin)
p.p.s. if anyone has any pics, that would be great!
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Post by cjdeane10 »

i have printed vicelore's BL page from the bible - i will be using this on the weekend to do the lift.

He extended the spline of the steering column a little.
That is an option, but i am asking about the additional rag joint as an alternative.
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Post by vicelore »

i take it yours isnt collapasable ? if it is have a look at my guide in the bible thats the method i used worked a treat.

Cheers
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Post by Gwagensteve »

With a 2" lift there should be no need to space the steering. I have done about a dozen 2" BL's on sierras and have never needed one.

The steering box input shaft has a long flat on it to allow for some tolerance. The bolt will go back in in the new position.

I have seen some done with the rag joint doubled up, but I don't really see the need.

Spacing is required with a 3" BL (which I don't really recommend anyway)

Steve.
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Post by cjdeane10 »

Ok, so i dont need to take the spline and drill the holes out, etc?

It was reccommended (in the kit) to extend the steering ?!?!

Thanks vicelore - your info is great, i will be following it step-by-step

Double rag joint seems very easy to do - i will grab another one from the wreckers and if i dont need it, well i will keep it as a spare.

cheers!
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Post by DiddyZook »

Ditto what Steve said.

I put 2nd rag joint washer (biscuit) in when I first did a 2" BL (just because I was told that was what you had to do) it worked fine. I have no problem with this.

However at a later date when doing other work on the Zook I found that I could move the shaft a little at eacvh end and fit it with just the one washer.

I had the solid steering shaft, not the extendable one referred to by Vicelore.

If I were to be doing another one now, I would not worry about the 2nd washer, just move the shaft on the spindle.
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Post by just cruizin' »

Christopher,

The instructions in my kit are taken for Vicelore's thread. I didn't advise moving the coupling on the shaft as I was not aware of this mod. On mine I added a double thinkness rag joint/biscuit and found this an easy mod, the same as adding a second rag joint.

As you can tell there are numerous methods, I drove mine around for quite a while with no steering mod but felt I may be doing some damage to the joint itself. I apologise if my instructions were unclear and if you feel they need to be revised please let me know.

I hope the rest of the install goes smoothly. Any feedback would be great.

Greg
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Post by cjdeane10 »

No problems Greg - your information was very clear.

I highly reccomend this kit for other users - the price and quality are better than i could find anywhere else (and it is without taking the risk of bodging something up myself!)

the double rag joint/biscuit seems the very easy option - and i will probably go down this line.
But Like i said - i will get another rag joint, just in case, and while i am under the truck, i will look at the shaft, and try to put the BL in over the weekend. I am sure i wont have any problems.

Thanks again!
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Post by cjdeane10 »

*note: My original thread was about if the biscuit part i was looking at was the right item for the job, not about extending the spline/shaft/coupling*

But the extra info is all good![/b]
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Post by just cruizin' »

Contact Bruce on NBS

http://www.nbs4x4club.com/forum/profile ... file&u=101

not sure if he's on here, most probably not using "Bruce" username though.

He makes and sells these in polyurthene for a good price, also makes spring bushes if you need any.

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Post by Turbo Tonka »

i have used the 2" kit from greg (just cruisin) went it smoothly and so on. I didnt need to play around with the steering shaft at all.just a feew things like brake line brackets etc.Have i read on here before about torana rag joints fitting up and being alot thicker??
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