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hey mat everytime i see you ya have the same jumper on wats going on ive got a few spare jumpers if ya need one
on a bad note was leaving the event and there were a few tools doing circle work at top of property just wish the cops got the fat prick
was that in a green duny dore if so i was standing on the other side of them. a kid in the car attempted to belt me but he backed off f-ing n00bs
na there were two of them one in the car park it was a 75 series and another at the top of the property near the road a black 45 series ute hope ya cars broke down on the way home
watch out for www.mudundies.com.au its www.mudrhino.com.au's sister site
frigga 40 wrote:...na there were two of them one in the car park it was a 75 series and another at the top of the property near the road a black 45 series ute hope ya cars broke down on the way home
Purple 45 ute. Grimace There were a few sick u'leh ripping it up the hills in 2wd on the way out, too.
Back a little more OT, i was surprised to see more competitors straying from the full muds (interco/simex) to less aggressive radials (MTZ/procomp extreme/xterrain etc). They seemed to do reasonable well, the only clear advantage to the more aggressive tyres was in the bog holes. Was this also the case on friday and saturday?
hey mat everytime i see you ya have the same jumper on wats going on ive got a few spare jumpers if ya need one
Tog 24 PolarTec Fleece now over 7 Years old and as good as the day I bought it and yes very distinctive with it's COG design and no I won't swap it for one of your PINK jumpers
MUD EMPIRE wrote:Guys from Geelong were running MTZ's.....they were happy with the tyres
but destroyed $2500 worth of 18" wheels...!!!
(I think they are 18's)
Those 18's looked funny - something i'd have to get used to for sure! I kind of wonder which was brought to suit the other - the 18's or the MTZ's - both seemed a little inappropriate
And yes alot of $$'s for winch racing!
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suzuki boy wrote:Deffinatlt wasn't as good as other years!
Was pretty good when it was going but when they were having managment problems listening to the uhf was funny as!
Thought i might have seen a winch come out! But i didn't!
The big rock hill was all there on it's lonesum with people sitting on it! Has to be brought back for next year!
Was talking to some guys in the morning when we got there and they turned out to be off here so that was pretty cool but once we introduced our selves about 4 more people came out and said they were from OL as well!
The guy in charge of the whole show was screamin over the UHF all day and was confusing every other marshel competerter and every one in the crowd!
I think the idea would be good if there was some heavy winching to seperate a few people!
Then there was the last loop...... After about an hour of nothing they started preparing the next loop! Every one thought they were driving up a hill and might need a winch but they cut that out so the people up there deffinatly let the organisers no what they thought!
As for the tree !
Drove the 4 hour hour loop and all i can say is the last 2-3 years have been awsome and hope next year it will be back up to scratch!
Alot of un happy people and when one guy said something over the radio about it not being run up to scratch i wouldn't of delt with it how they did! Deffinatly not the way to deal with it!
BUT still i like the sport and there was some awsome trucks gettin around!
RANT OVER!
that was said spot on...
i was there also, had a blast lookin at the trucks but was amused all day by the uhf in the pocket listening to the VERY UNORGANISED EVENT..
i understand an event like this takes a lot of preperation and to all who were involved done a great job. except:
it has always been great family day out and has plenty of action. but it was without fail the worst event i have ever seen. poorly organised couldnt see a bloody thing and if i wanted to see trucks race around a paddock all day i would have gone to my mates paddock and ripped it up with him.
ohh.. Jonsey.
if you stop yellin at your crew and actually listen to them and get off ya high horse, people wouldnt have left in disgust and when people start tellin ya that the event needs improvment dont be a hero cause they arent comin back and most of us spectators were mad ..the entire crew today busted there balz to make today work and it sorta did but with many complications.but it was obvious communications were at fault. volunteers are not there to be spoken to like sh*t
without spectators there aint gonna be a sport!
and next year get that grumpy ol mole off the gate cause she was the most arrogant person i have ever met!
i hadnt heard one good thing about the event, competitors were confused and the tracks were changed. COMMUNICATIONS PEOPLE!
i want my day back and a refund
You are a tool mate
Jonesy worked his ass off all weekend with limited resources and for you to bag him means you have no idea what goes on behind the scenes at an event .
If you think you can do better ,have a go
TEAMRPM wrote:
ohh.. Jonsey.
if you stop yellin at your crew and actually listen to them and get off ya high horse, people wouldnt have left in disgust and when people start tellin ya that the event needs improvment dont be a hero cause they arent comin back and most of us spectators were mad ..the entire crew today busted there balz to make today work and it sorta did but with many complications.but it was obvious communications were at fault. volunteers are not there to be spoken to like sh*t
without spectators there aint gonna be a sport!
and next year get that grumpy ol mole off the gate cause she was the most arrogant person i have ever met!
i hadnt heard one good thing about the event, competitors were confused and the tracks were changed. COMMUNICATIONS PEOPLE!
i want my day back and a refund
Have you ever played a major role in organising an event? If so then by all means give some CONSTRUCTIVE critism but if you haven't then you certainly wouldn't understand what's required to run one.
Jonesy is well respected as a past competitor, spectator leader at the OBC, Stage Manager and now a marshal organiser. Those that know him, know how to take him and have that respect for him that you obviously don't.
As for the your statement "without spectators there aint gonna be a sport", I think your fairly incorrect Without guys like Jonesy and the other volunteers there wouldn't be a sport. I'm pretty sure the Ateco, Vic Winch, OBC, Alpine Challenge etc. aren't driven by spectator numbers.
And I'm sure you won't be missed if you don't show up to spectate next year. The sport will go on without you.....
Anyone see that 60series with about 14inches of lift parked down the bottom today? Massive...
Had about 3 bodyblocks stacked on top of each other for body lift, and massive coils also..
Almost certain that it was an 80 chassis under a 60 body.....
Big coils and big body lift.....utterly useless, and looked crap.
its not an 80series chassis. its still a 60 series with 100 series diffs. and yes it does look crap and yes we do let him know thats its dodgey but its not mine so i just stand back and watch.
Yeah bummer to miss out on mad hill climbs but good on all those involved in organising it & trying a different format to what we watch at Ateco and Vic Winch year after year. Big field, not enough time. Whatever. It was still a great weekend.
Anyone got any pics from SS8? As I was stuck up the top most of the time. Doing the paper work.
I was there from friday Lunch time. As some mates and I where running a SS1 and SS8. We set our stages up. SS1 was pretty much similar to a sat stage from previous years.
But SS8 was to be mostly new. But after it was finished and bunted. It was decicded to change it as it would had to have been a 30min DNF. But with the changes it turned out to be a nice fast courses with only Trent Leen driving the hill. Think Dave was happy with that.
Fastest time was 1:24, slowest scored time being 11mins.
Laurie S had the tree jammed under his car on SS8 and one of the marshals supplied the chainsaw to cut it out. As it was jammed up above the drive shaft and took out the battary leads which run on the underside of the trans tunnel. The branch hit the isolater switch.
As for the organisation. For friday and sat everything seemed to run pretty well. As per normal, things where slow to kick off. Only not so good plan was putting 2 groups at SS1 and none to SS2. So it made for a back log and a late night. But I can understand why this decision was made. As parking at SS2 was at a premium (SS1 basically fed into the start of SS2).
On sat we where glad of the delay as the course needed to be changed slightly. Due to a request by the property owner. But the stage was still fine. It just took out possible 3 winching spots.
All in all it was good. Oh and thanks for the bonus lunch. I we didnt get that we wouldnt have eaten anything good at all.
I too was very dissapointed - the last few years we have attended Sunday and had an awesome day - we know a few competitors, and it is always exciting.
However, after a 2 hour trip each way, not to see any winching at all, and just to see mostly flat track was s***house. Alan's property is awesome, why not use it????
The idea of running side by side was great, a good spectacle, but the delays, the disorganised organisation(?) was a joke. Get back to basics!!
And yes, I have been involved in running events in the past, and I know how hard it can be, but surely the organisers have done such a good job over the past few years, what went wrong??
Having said that, congrats to all the competitors!
Well i am no longer an Ateco Virgin.. In fact i think i was raped by the Ateco. That was hard work for a body that wasn't built for running!
The stages were fantastic. In defence of the organiser i have to say that a BIG part of the organisation issue were due to land preservation management. Alan didn't want his creek croosings torn to bits and some of the hills were bordering on dangerous given how slippery they were. Thing had to be changed as conditions changed.
I would like to thank the organisers for there time and efforts. Jonsey had a tough job and from our end seemed to manage it ok.
Roger smith had his finger on the pulse and was always there to point us in the right direction.
For all the other marshalls at stages a Huge thank you, we appreciate what you do even though we may not show it at the time.
A Big thank you also to all the spectators who came to support us and the event. Please don't be dis-heartenend and come back next year as we need you guys and gals to help the event grow and better itself. Conditions were tough this year and we all make mistakes.
And to all the other competitors also a big thanks. Congratulations to all who suceeded in the event and in there own right.
Lastly, Terry and the wanderers, Thanks for the great tucker. Above expectations as usual..
Cheers Dan
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There was a very large winch hill scheduled for Sunday but the time needed to scale it was underestimated and needed to be changed early event due to the 2 tracks running at the same time and delays would have been much worse than they were.
I've been a marshall for this event for the last 4 years and unfortunately there are always unforseen issues that need to be resolved at the last minute.
Before you judge too harshly, bare in mind that the people involved in running this event both on the day and many months before, have given massive amounts of their time, for free, to try and bring you a great show. What's their time worth?
Would you prefer everyone just gave up trying and didn't bother to organise it again next year? How about if no one bothered at all, and you had no 4x4 events in Australia to keep you entertained?
It's a cliche but it's true, IF YOU THINK YOU CAN DO A BETTER JOB, STEP UP AND OFFER YOUR SERVICES. PROVE YOU ARE NOT JUST ALL WEB WHEELERS AND GET YOUR HANDS DIRTY!!!
The Fish wrote:
As for the your statement "without spectators there aint gonna be a sport", I think your fairly incorrect Without guys like Jonesy and the other volunteers there wouldn't be a sport. I'm pretty sure the Ateco, Vic Winch, OBC, Alpine Challenge etc. aren't driven by spectator numbers.
Without spectators would large sponsers like Warn & Engel to name only a few back these competition events?
Since it is the spectators who buy these products they are supporting the sport...do you think AFL or Cricket would be supported and ran if no spectators were there?
Whilst I am certain that the volunteers and marshals etc. did their best, the event was unorganised and very confusing...and a lot of people were dissapointed...
Better luck next year - I did like the 2 car's running at the same time...
Yea a mate took some pics, notice the blocks were on a precarious angle
There were a few sick u'leh ripping it up the hills in 2wd on the way out, too.
..the entire crew today busted there balz to make today work and it sorta did but with many complications.but it was obvious communications were at fault. volunteers are not there to be spoken to like sh*t
