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Which A/T tyres?
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Which A/T tyres?
My current tyres are worn out and I need a new set.
I drive on the beach occasionally, rarely offroad but sometimes (plan to go on a trip later this year) and mainly on the tarmac.
I want something that will last 60-80,000k+ hopefully.
Size required LT265/70R16 for my Navara D22 DX.
Cheers
Mitch
I drive on the beach occasionally, rarely offroad but sometimes (plan to go on a trip later this year) and mainly on the tarmac.
I want something that will last 60-80,000k+ hopefully.
Size required LT265/70R16 for my Navara D22 DX.
Cheers
Mitch
Check ut Toyo Opats. They are great on the road and in mild 4wd use. They are made in Japan, wear very well and are a good price.
I was using Michelin Synchrones as road tyres and the tyre guys said that the Toyos would be better in every department than the Michelins and they have been correct at $100 a tyre cheaper.
I was using Michelin Synchrones as road tyres and the tyre guys said that the Toyos would be better in every department than the Michelins and they have been correct at $100 a tyre cheaper.
According to here the Opat's didn't do to well in this testamtravic1 wrote:Check ut Toyo Opats. They are great on the road and in mild 4wd use. They are made in Japan, wear very well and are a good price.
I was using Michelin Synchrones as road tyres and the tyre guys said that the Toyos would be better in every department than the Michelins and they have been correct at $100 a tyre cheaper.
http://www.4wdmonthly.com.au/tips_tyres.php
I will be doing quite a bit of Sand driving and they didn't rate they very high at all on the sand, is this guide pretty good to go by?
All I can say is I have used Opats for around 70.000 kms so far and they look like they will do 90-100.000 kms. I am talking about mild all terrains that will be used for the road mostly like you said in your post. I have used Scorpians and BFG ATs and the Toyos are far better on the road.mjc85 wrote:According to here the Opat's didn't do to well in this testamtravic1 wrote:Check ut Toyo Opats. They are great on the road and in mild 4wd use. They are made in Japan, wear very well and are a good price.
I was using Michelin Synchrones as road tyres and the tyre guys said that the Toyos would be better in every department than the Michelins and they have been correct at $100 a tyre cheaper.
http://www.4wdmonthly.com.au/tips_tyres.php
I will be doing quite a bit of Sand driving and they didn't rate they very high at all on the sand, is this guide pretty good to go by?
I read lots of magazine tests on all sorts of products, many which I own or have owned and I rarely agree with the results they come up with. You can make make up your own mind but talk to the tyre shop people, the ones that actually fit, sell and use the brands you are interested in. The guys that sold me the Toyos have them on their own cars even though could have a choice of what ever they wanted at a good price.
Ian
I drive on the beach occasionally, rarely offroad but sometimes (plan to go on a trip later this year) and mainly on the tarmac.
I want something that will last 60-80,000k+ hopefully
Mickey T Wildcat A/T is good choice for what U wanna do.....will do the K's too....
Retail, they sell for around $240.00 fitted.....Cheers Dave.
I will be doing quite a bit of Sand driving and they didn't rate they very high at all on the sand, is this guide pretty good to go by?
I read lots of magazine tests on all sorts of products, many which I own or have owned and I rarely agree with the results they come up with. You can make make up your own mind but talk to the tyre shop people, the ones that actually fit, sell and use the brands you are interested in. The guys that sold me the Toyos have them on their own cars even though could have a choice of what ever they wanted at a good price.
i back that test to a certain degree......
you cant always beleive what the media prints...... for example WHEELS magazine does a "high performance tyre test" every year, they get a different company to help with the test, one year it was bob jane who helped with the testing, 12 different tyres were tested, the brands that scored the best results were michelin and maxxis (bob janes two leading brands) the next year it was beaurepairs that helped, the tyres that scored the best were dunlop and goodyear (beaurepairs are owned by south pacific tyres, now known as goodyear dunlop distributors aus.)
my point.......dont always trust the magazines.
there is lots of credintals that count.
speak to a tyre shop that is open to sell all brands and not just the ones that suggest the tyre that they have on shelf.
cheers
ricky
P.S this is the week to be shopping for tyres..... its the end of the financial year and eveybody wants to boost their figures so there is some great deals going round.
I read lots of magazine tests on all sorts of products, many which I own or have owned and I rarely agree with the results they come up with. You can make make up your own mind but talk to the tyre shop people, the ones that actually fit, sell and use the brands you are interested in. The guys that sold me the Toyos have them on their own cars even though could have a choice of what ever they wanted at a good price.
i back that test to a certain degree......
you cant always beleive what the media prints...... for example WHEELS magazine does a "high performance tyre test" every year, they get a different company to help with the test, one year it was bob jane who helped with the testing, 12 different tyres were tested, the brands that scored the best results were michelin and maxxis (bob janes two leading brands) the next year it was beaurepairs that helped, the tyres that scored the best were dunlop and goodyear (beaurepairs are owned by south pacific tyres, now known as goodyear dunlop distributors aus.)
my point.......dont always trust the magazines.
there is lots of credintals that count.
speak to a tyre shop that is open to sell all brands and not just the ones that suggest the tyre that they have on shelf.
cheers
ricky
P.S this is the week to be shopping for tyres..... its the end of the financial year and eveybody wants to boost their figures so there is some great deals going round.
whats wrong with them?pongo wrote:If you can find em i love my kellys, both sets of em
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Totally agree. I have had them on my paj for 4 yrs now & are very good & would buy them again. Admit I use other tyres for most of my off road activities, but the Opats cope well with general easy/medium stuff in places like toolangi etc.amtravic1 wrote:Check ut Toyo Opats. They are great on the road and in mild 4wd use. They are made in Japan, wear very well and are a good price.
I was using Michelin Synchrones as road tyres and the tyre guys said that the Toyos would be better in every department than the Michelins and they have been correct at $100 a tyre cheaper.
For what you require, will do the job well & road noise is low.
I had a set of toyo "open country" in 31 x 15 on a patrol ute. Got just short of 100,000 out of them. Could have got more if I had been more careful of the tyre pressures. they survived 2 tek screws thru the the tread after my shed was built. They we cheap, long lasting and balanced OK. traction on road was good. Id rate their steering abilities were only ave. but damm good value for money.
Have got a set of mickey thompson Dick cepeks FcIIs on my new rig. should be good for 80+ thousands kms.
Have got a set of mickey thompson Dick cepeks FcIIs on my new rig. should be good for 80+ thousands kms.
I've got a set of BFG A/T KO's for bitumen and bush roads only (35" simexes off road) and have got over 100,000 kms out of them and they've still got a bit of life in them. I'm gunna buy a set soon for the missus's merc and would highly recommend them for any road travelling 4by.mjc85 wrote:Are the BFG A/T KO as good as the older BFG A/T that everyone recommends? People were saying they were getting 90,000kms from a set, you reckon the KO's will do similar mileage?
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I've been running the Bridgestone D694's as a daily driver tyre and have ended up using them offroad in sand, mud, snow etc. and I've been quite impressed both on and offroad although muddies are so much better offroad.
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I'm another vote for the toyo opats use them for my road tyre and handle well have even flogged them off road wear well all round. No Swamper off road
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I`ve had my mickey thompson atz tyres for 50,000 km and they still have 60-70% tread. seems hard to believe but honestly they are great allrounders and i`ll keep buying them. never had a puncture and great on wet roads. cheap as well........
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I'll start by saying I'm a Cooper's fan. I loved my S/Ts, very happy with my STTs. But I've read too many bad reports about the A/Ts, and their wet bitumen performance in particular.
I think S/Ts are great offroad, but they may be a little noisy on bitumen if you're after an A/T. The 4wd Monthly tests concluded they were pretty crap on bitumen too (but still finished very well overall, which gives some idea of their relative performance off-road.)
STTs are a softer compound than the S/Ts, so won't last as long on bitumen - but they last better in rough country (according to staff at Mt Dare station.)
The mechanic at Innamincka stocks predominantly OPATs - I figure he wouldn't do that if they didn't last out there. And roads out there shred H/Ts.
I don't recall reading anything bad about Pirelli Scorpions, either.
Of course, BFG A/Ts are a perennial favourite.
I think S/Ts are great offroad, but they may be a little noisy on bitumen if you're after an A/T. The 4wd Monthly tests concluded they were pretty crap on bitumen too (but still finished very well overall, which gives some idea of their relative performance off-road.)
STTs are a softer compound than the S/Ts, so won't last as long on bitumen - but they last better in rough country (according to staff at Mt Dare station.)
The mechanic at Innamincka stocks predominantly OPATs - I figure he wouldn't do that if they didn't last out there. And roads out there shred H/Ts.
I don't recall reading anything bad about Pirelli Scorpions, either.
Of course, BFG A/Ts are a perennial favourite.
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I have had Pirelli Scorpions, I found them a excellent all rounder. Great on tar (wet or dry), grippy on fast dirt and good in the mud (for a A/T), Now have Cooper ST's, good on fast dirt, great in the mud (nearly as good as my old MTR's) but hopless on the tar, especially in the wet. Have too run at about 30-32 psi to get some heat in them to grip. If I run them any higher than 36 psi they feel grip-less (if thats a word). And bear in mind this is on a heavy Patrol.
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That makes sense but that's a very low tar pressure for such a heavy vehicleda60 wrote: Have too run at about 30-32 psi to get some heat in them to grip. If I run them any higher than 36 psi they feel grip-less (if thats a word). And bear in mind this is on a heavy Patrol.
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