G'day all, has anyone braced the idler arm on a vitara, something like the one calmini do? or should i just brace & weld it to reinforce the little thing that it is? Pics anyone?
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vitara idler arm brace
vitara idler arm brace
yup that could be me, nice bit of bracketomertry but it think my wide track mounts differently, it gives me something to work from!
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atari4x4
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atari4x4
idler arm brace
I have'nt yet but i am certain that i will end up bending it only had my rig on the road a few weeks now, done a epic robe to carpenters rocks trip with no dramas in the vit but plan to get stuck in a rut sometime in the not to distant future. prevention is betteer than cure.
atari4x4
atari4x4
There is a good topic on Zukiworld about the idler arm.
http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=14755.0
http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=14755.0
Suzuki Vitara JX 1.6 EFI Hardtop.
Calmini Lift, Rockhopper, Skid Plates, ARB Airlocker, Bullbar, 30" MTR, Custom Sill Sliders, Rear Bar.
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Calmini Lift, Rockhopper, Skid Plates, ARB Airlocker, Bullbar, 30" MTR, Custom Sill Sliders, Rear Bar.
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finally got a start on the idler arm brace after seeing a few different designs & my 2.0l being slightly different to the 1.6l. i came up with this i just need polar_bear to weld it up for me.
cardboard template
steel cut
mocked up
cardboard template
steel cut
mocked up
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cj,
i can send you a drawing of it once its finished...... my cardboard mockup is long gone. it was made up from 6mm plate that was left over from polar_bear's front bar, it will bolt up to the control arm mount & to the front crossmember/lower radiator support panel once welded. hopefully this is enough to stop the stock ilder arm brace from blowing out, its almost as bad as the coke can front diff housing.
i can send you a drawing of it once its finished...... my cardboard mockup is long gone. it was made up from 6mm plate that was left over from polar_bear's front bar, it will bolt up to the control arm mount & to the front crossmember/lower radiator support panel once welded. hopefully this is enough to stop the stock ilder arm brace from blowing out, its almost as bad as the coke can front diff housing.
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progress report, i had polar_bear lay a couple of welds on my ildler arm brace the other night 
gave it a lick of paint & here it is dummied up, still need to drill one more hole in the front rail but its looking beefy & should do the trick
i still need to drill that hole out to M8 & bolt it all up.
gave it a lick of paint & here it is dummied up, still need to drill one more hole in the front rail but its looking beefy & should do the trick
i still need to drill that hole out to M8 & bolt it all up.
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thats not a bad idea, but in all honesty it drives like a drunken horse!MightyMouse wrote:cj - if your going to have a play with the idler, why not investigate
putting in bearings instead of bushes ?
Makes a HUGE difference to the steering feel if its possible.
Its on my list ( page 26, item 3826 ).....
i'm not that fussed about the steering feel, getting home with a buggered idler arm was more of an issue.
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cj wrote:atari4x4 wrote:cj,
i can send you a drawing of it once its finished......
i've been busy "testing" it cj & with my new job i'm not seeing much daylight during the week
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here is polar_bears stock idler arm bracket after he bent it!MightyMouse wrote:I like the arm brace idea, I missed the point a little in that whilst it
improves the feel that's mostly because it stop the bushes pounding out.
I don't have a Vit, so don't really know how well they last - so might be
unnecessary.
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yep, i'll be round after the weekend polar_bear! you do remember what they are don't you? i'll get some numbers off it tomorrow as i've got to give it a service!
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Polar_Bear wrote:bring yours around again atari, and i'll zap another one up for cj...i think i'm gonna need his help soon
.... but what what do you need from me
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atari4x4 wrote:yep, i'll be round after the weekend polar_bear! you do remember what they are don't you?
nope its been bedlam here just lately, every day just turns into the next 
have you still got the other half of that winch plate left? 
v840 wrote:
If you want to buy it for luxury, then you sir, are a retard.
If you want to buy it for luxury, then you sir, are a retard.
finally got around to getting some measurements off the idler arm brace & scratched up a bit of a drawing, its not to scale but gives an idea of the sizes required.
sorry about the delays there's not enough daylight hours in a day & my zook doesn't fit in the workshop anymore
sorry about the delays there's not enough daylight hours in a day & my zook doesn't fit in the workshop anymore
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d'oh, double post..... stoopid wifi
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