1uz Vs 7mge motor swap

Post by **pozman** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 7:40 pm

hi guys, sorry to dig up an old thread, but i've been looking for a bundera for a while now, and i drove one today with a 7m-ge

im no newby to power, and drive a turbo car as a daily, and i can safely say that this bindera was fast, really suprised the crap out of me.

also going the nasp route will be safer as 90 percent of turbo engine have been thrashed, and they are quite an old engine now, and old turbo cars are a pian, trust me i know

just my 2c

paul

Post by **dow50r** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:23 am

The 7mge was a troublesome motor in the head dept. Yes that can be delt with by throwing more money at it, but as it has been said...they are getting old and GOOD alloy heads are becoming scarce. It has no variable cam timing, and for the trouble and cost, isnt worth it, but...all bits can be found to graft one in from the supra, and it has the right name on it...so i suppose im saying weigh it up...cheap power....but if power is what you want...normal asperated 2jz makes more than turbo 7mgte std.
If your going to engineer it and rego it....thats the platform to use....turbos can be bolted on later :@)

Post by **Turbo Tonka** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:24 pm

just been looking over this thread.i have a 2.8 diesel lux and am over the lack of power etc.How many parts need to be chased up for the 7mge engine to bolt into mine,and is it a bolt up?right gearbox etc?the engines seem to be around cheap enough....thanks anyone

Post by **Turoa** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:45 pm

Turbo Tonka wrote:just been looking over this thread.i have a 2.8 diesel lux and am over the lack of power etc.How many parts need to be chased up for the 7mge engine to bolt into mine,and is it a bolt up?right gearbox etc?the engines seem to be around cheap enough....thanks anyone

read this, will give you a helpful insight.

http://4wd.net.nz/suprasurf.htm

Post by **SASS** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:48 pm

All the info you ever need is on supracharged.com.
Read my earlier post. It is a very easy power upgrade

Post by **302 cruiser** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:18 pm

hi i have just been reading the info on the website http://4wd.net.nz/suprasurf.htm he said he used a bell housing from a supra bu he didnt say what gearbox was in his runner i was wondering if anyone could tell me if a w58 supra bell housing would fit the gearbux in my 3y powered 84 hilux any feedback would be good
Thanks

Post by **jafa** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:31 pm

W series boxes have the same bolt pattern as the G boxes...so yes it will fit, if its a g52 5 speed in your truck

Post by **dsl100gxl** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:39 pm

302 cruiser wrote:hi i have just been reading the info on the website http://4wd.net.nz/suprasurf.htm he said he used a bell housing from a supra bu he didnt say what gearbox was in his runner i was wondering if anyone could tell me if a w58 supra bell housing would fit the gearbux in my 3y powered 84 hilux any feedback would be good
Thanks

diesel lux runs w box, petrol runs g, both accept supra bell, apparently engine mounts line up...thats why its so easy to fit.

Post by **Tapage** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:27 am

jafa wrote:W series boxes have the same bolt pattern as the G boxes...so yes it will fit, if its a g52 5 speed in your truck

The question it .. the G52 can handle the power ?

Post by **jafa** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:30 am

Tapage wrote:
jafa wrote:W series boxes have the same bolt pattern as the G boxes...so yes it will fit, if its a g52 5 speed in your truck
The question it .. the G52 can handle the power ?

No worries, mine has no issue with the 7mge at all

Post by **302 cruiser** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:41 pm

i have read that the 5m sump wont work with x over steering is this correct will i have to get a 7m sump to fit the 5m

Post by **jafa** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:45 am

yer ya really need to find a Turbo 7m (7mgte) sump, oil pump, pickup and hardline and swap that in. You dont need to if you have normal shitty Hilux j-arm steering

Post by **302 cruiser** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:58 pm

so it has to be a turbo sump the nat as sump is no good

Post by **jafa** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:45 pm

the turbo sump is a mid bowl as opposed to the NA which is front bowl, have a look here, lots of good info on the swap

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=11982.70

Post by **g35me** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:33 pm

dow50r wrote:
brian haines wrote:The 2jz is in the JZA80 supra 1993 on, the 2jzgte is the twin turbo. WTF is a JZA100 Supra, dont know where you got that from.

Soarer's have the 1uzfe V8 or the 1jz twin turbo inline 6. I sold a complete running 1uzfe soarer for $3500 just before christmas so you should be able to pick the engine on its own up for FAR less than that.

Sorry Brian...easy mistake....a chaser has 2 doors too...just like your old Soarer....why have you got the rags on??? wasnt 3500 enough??

I must have been cut that day?

Post by **joey2389** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:37 am

hey guys ive got a 92 4runner with 3vze which is on its last legs. which engine swap would be a better to do, like cheapest, easyer to install, good for power. stuff like that. the three engines i have in mind are 1uz, 7m-ge or a 2jz. i still want to run my manual gearbox aswell. and also what should i expect to get for my 3vze it has 270 000 on it and burns a bit of oil.
any opinions or info would be greatly appreciated. thanks.

Post by **dow50r** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:46 am

jafa wrote:the turbo sump is a mid bowl as opposed to the NA which is front bowl, have a look here, lots of good info on the swap

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=11982.70

Toyota like to play with our heads...by changing stuff....the mid sump is from a supra, supra come turbo and non..both have mid sumps the cressida is the other 7m car in oz that has a front sump..

Post by **dow50r** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:59 am

joey2389 wrote:hey guys ive got a 92 4runner with 3vze which is on its last legs. which engine swap would be a better to do, like cheapest, easyer to install, good for power. stuff like that. the three engines i have in mind are 1uz, 7m-ge or a 2jz. i still want to run my manual gearbox aswell. and also what should i expect to get for my 3vze it has 270 000 on it and burns a bit of oil.
any opinions or info would be greatly appreciated. thanks.

My humble opinion is....rebuild the heads....1500 and away you go...any of the other options will cost 4k minimum and alot of time wiring things up....
Other options to consider would be a new 200 kw v6 motor from a camry/rav4 or a prado 4 litre v6....of the motors you mentioned, the 2j is the best as far as technology goes...they have vvti

Post by **302 cruiser** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:54 pm

i have just put a 7mge into my lux i think allup including buying the motor, pulling the head off, and doing the gasket, exhaust all said and done cost about $1200 i did everything myself i would recomend it goes awsome

Post by **joey2389** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:37 pm

thanks 4 the info guys keen on the 7m-ge i think.

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