Notice: We request that you don't just set up a new account at this time if you are a previous user.
If you used to be one of our moderators, please feel free to reach out to Chris via the facebook Outerlimits4x4 group and he will get you set back up with access should he need you.
Recovery:If you cannot access your old email address and don't remember your password, please click here to log a change of email address so you can do a password reset.

extended shakles on a 75

Tech Talk for Cruiser owners.

Moderators: toaddog, Elmo, DUDELUX

Post Reply
Posts: 45
Joined: Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:52 pm
Location: sw vic

extended shakles on a 75

Post by coat »

Hey guys just wanting some info on extended shakles.. wanting to put them on the 75 thats got the standard springs that have been reset bout 2 years ago.. is this worth while or just wait till i get new springs which will be a while off yet... if i do now wat will i need... wedges ,brake lines, ect
Thanks guys .. Coat
Posts: 2347
Joined: Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:56 pm
Location: Perth

Post by Z()LTAN »

got for it

wont need break lines or wedges

Make em yaself if ya want

Image
Image
Image
Locktup4x4.com.au - For all of your hardcore gear

Outlaws4x4.com
Posts: 249
Joined: Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:56 pm
Location: moranbah Queensland

Post by balzackracing »

Coat,
2" extended shackles will require a set of 3 deg wedges. This will return your castor back to stock or there abouts. The shackles are a good quick and easy mod.

Busty..
HZJ75, 3in spring,2in cab,drop shackles,shock hoops and inverted shocks, fourbys 15x10 beadlocks, 36x12.5x15 simex ET2,
Comp Tray,Turboed 1HZ.
HZJ105R, 4in Tough dog, 315 75 16 MTZ, Turbo 1HZ.
Posts: 45
Joined: Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:52 pm
Location: sw vic

Post by coat »

thanks guys... wont be making myself but will install at home... will i gain much with standard length springs..
Posts: 1031
Joined: Sun May 01, 2005 10:22 pm
Location: Newcastle 2300

Post by joel HJ60 »

What issues will arise from installing the shackles and not doing anything to the castor?
[b]1985 HJ60[/b]

[url]http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons[/url]
Posts: 2765
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2004 10:32 pm
Location: somewhere out there

Post by shorty_f0rty »

joel HJ60 wrote:What issues will arise from installing the shackles and not doing anything to the castor?
steering will be flighty, railroad or tramline (not sure if they are the right terms but it will follow/fall into the grooves in roads very easily or without notice) or all over the place..
Built, not bought!
'84 BJ42 - sold! :(
'79 Coiled and turbo diesel'd FJ55
Resident Terrorist
Posts: 4278
Joined: Fri May 21, 2004 9:37 am
Location: Driving Barnsey's mum to bingo

Post by RAY185 »

Vague steering and steering wander especially after hitting a bump in the road. Quite dangerous depending on the rig and the amount of shackle extension.

EDIT: oops: didnt see Andy's reply above. Pretty much what he said. :D
Posts: 3725
Joined: Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:45 pm
Location: Blue Mountains, or on a rig somewhere in bumf*ck idaho

Post by rockcrawler31 »

in laymans terms - mine handled like a bag of shit after getting the shackles. Verrry light and direct steering, and wanders like all hell.

Standard length springs with 2inch shackles will give a 1 inch lift, a little better flex and a bouncier ride as the shackles will be closer to vertical.

if you can afford it, replace the main and wrap springs with one or two inch lengthened ones and it will get the best out of the shackles in both ride and flex, but at the cost of constantly buggered bushes due to high misalignment during flexing. thats what i've found anyways.
http://www.populationparty.org.au/
Posts: 3
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:15 pm
Location: Bundaberg

Post by MidSizeMe »

Hey Rockcrawler where abouts did you get your longer main leafs from I need to get some for my middy.
Posts: 2765
Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2004 10:32 pm
Location: somewhere out there

Post by shorty_f0rty »

MidSizeMe wrote:Hey Rockcrawler where abouts did you get your longer main leafs from I need to get some for my middy.
i measured the springs i had.. went down to the wreckers and found some leaves that were longer..
Built, not bought!
'84 BJ42 - sold! :(
'79 Coiled and turbo diesel'd FJ55
Posts: 1109
Joined: Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:48 pm
Location: Australia

Post by hulsty »

or do as i am, 2'' shackles rear middy springs in the front and IFS hilux rears

cheers
Posts: 3
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:15 pm
Location: Bundaberg

Post by MidSizeMe »

Hulsty that sounds like a good idea, I didn't realize the hilux leafs would fit.can you post up some photos of what your doing I'd like to see what your doing. will i need lifted ifs springs to match the lifted middy springs
Posts: 1143
Joined: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:11 pm
Location: Canberra

Post by chunks »

If you want new leafs someone like Carolls Springs should be able to supply them.
Posts: 1109
Joined: Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:48 pm
Location: Australia

Post by hulsty »

hopefully in a few weeks i'll have it done, i'm probably going to only use the two longest leaves from the hilux pack and the rest from my front spring pack with the entire rear pack in the front. If you go to the ironman website they have a catalouge with all the spring dimensions on it there so you can find some that suit you.

cheers
Posts: 3725
Joined: Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:45 pm
Location: Blue Mountains, or on a rig somewhere in bumf*ck idaho

Post by rockcrawler31 »

Yeah i just went to Carrols springs in Wacol. i can't remember the quote but for main and wraps only it wasn't much. the advantage of going this way is that they are the right length AND the right camber/lift AND the center bolt is in the right spot.

MILO
http://www.populationparty.org.au/
Posts: 3
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:15 pm
Location: Bundaberg

Post by MidSizeMe »

How does getting just the main and wrap give you the centre bolt in the right place, did you drill it yourself. did they come straight off the shelf or did they have to make them up for you
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest