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Overkill coil conversion kit!!!!!!!

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Post by Guy »

How much lift is this kit gonna provide all up ??
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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

love_mud wrote:How much lift is this kit gonna provide all up ??


6 inches which means you can run up 32,s with no body lift.
We can change the springs for a smaller lift.
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Post by SAWZALL »

or a bigger lift :cool:
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Post by skippy »

estimated price $$$
and will it work with a set of narrow track diffs?
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Post by N*A*M »

can't wait to see how the front will be done :cool:
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Post by greg »

overkill wrote:
love_mud wrote:How much lift is this kit gonna provide all up ??


6 inches which means you can run up 32,s with no body lift.
We can change the springs for a smaller lift.
SAM


Is this controlled by extending the bump stops sam? I'm a bit confused about how you ensure that the spring doesn't squash right done...

thanks
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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

greg wrote:
overkill wrote:
love_mud wrote:How much lift is this kit gonna provide all up ??


6 inches which means you can run up 32,s with no body lift.
We can change the springs for a smaller lift.
SAM


Is this controlled by extending the bump stops sam? I'm a bit confused about how you ensure that the spring doesn't squash right done...

thanks


Correct
And some trimming.
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Post by greg »

So if the ride hight is going to be 6" taller than stock, and the springs will allow you to compress to approximately 2" less than stock (via bump stops - working on the assumption that you need a 2" body lift to clear 32's with leaf springs, so the bump stops would have to be 2")...

How much droop will these springs allow? in other words - what is their max extension (since they are connected solidly at both ends)...
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Post by redzook »

greg wrote:So if the ride hight is going to be 6" taller than stock, and the springs will allow you to compress to approximately 2" less than stock (via bump stops - working on the assumption that you need a 2" body lift to clear 32's with leaf springs, so the bump stops would have to be 2")...



i dont think it works like that ;)

cos the futher 1 side goes down the futher the other 1 is goin to compress

but will u even need to run bump stops? are the springs that soft?

what sort of link setup is goin to be in the front?
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Post by greg »

redzook wrote:cos the futher 1 side goes down the futher the other 1 is goin to compress

but will u even need to run bump stops? are the springs that soft?

what sort of link setup is goin to be in the front?


I think that you would want to be running bump stops to limit compression, otherwise - if you were using the springs to stop compression - you would be making the car run higher than it needed to. :?
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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

The springs we are using give a 6' lift from standard with 32's you will have to do a little trimming on the gaurds. As far as compression goes the spring will compress to a fairly short spring.I don't think bump stops will be a huge issue but until we drive it we won't know.
Tim the front end will be a three link arangment.
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Post by redzook »

anything new?
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Post by SAWZALL »

Going to do more on it tomorrow...
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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

uphiir wrote:Going to do more on it tomorrow...


He thinks :D :D Tomorrow the rear will be finishe and the front arms should be finished just leaving the spring mounts.
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Post by SAWZALL »

Update: Rear is done WAHOOO!!!!

Hope to get quite a bit done on the front tomorrow....
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Post by Luigi Malone »

uphiir wrote:The other thread sorta lost it's way and this kit deserves it's own thread.
Seeing as Sam is adding photos of the build as it happens this will be very interesting.

Talking of the kit, even if you just bought a rear kit, imagine:

* 6 inches of suspension lift
* Smoooooth ride
* HEAPS of wheel travel
* No more S shaped springs

Stay tuned.......


Hey Sam, or UPHIIR, will this kit be offered in rear or front only? Hmmmmmm. Thinkin' here.
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Post by grimbo »

must say I'm very interested in just a front only
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Post by Luigi Malone »

grimbo wrote:must say I'm very interested in just a front only



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Post by grimbo »

yeah haven't had any dramas with it so why mess with it. the front coil would be nice for approach angle issues and I keep on bending springs
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Post by Luigi Malone »

grimbo wrote:yeah haven't had any dramas with it so why mess with it. the front coil would be nice for approach angle issues and I keep on bending springs


My thoughts too, only I don't bend springs in front. And I don't get axle wrap in rear. Guess I drive conservatively. It's a sign of age. Breaking things means fixing things. eaarrgh, flag that.
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Post by SAWZALL »

Kits will be front or rear or both. Central mount at the moment is for a "both" kit. Made the crossmember for the upper front mount today

Looking good so far :D
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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

Just some updated pics of the front mounts.
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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

A couple more
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Post by SAWZALL »

WOW looks well designed and the welds look good too :D

Will it be finished by :x-mas:
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Post by -Mick- »

Any updates on progress of the kit/s :?:

Would smaller lifted springs, say 4inch, hinder flex if you were willing to chop guards for tyre clearance :?:

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Post by SAWZALL »

Unfortunately due to Sam's medical condition, no work was able to be done on it over Xmas. I gotta work 'til Wed night but the metal we were waiting on has arrived so SUBSTANTIAL progress should be made on it later in the week.

We'll be testing different rate/height springs in it once it is on the road (and off it :cool: and will keep you guys updated
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Post by SAWZALL »

Wahooo. It supports it's own weight....stay tuned :cool:
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Post by Damo »

uphiir wrote:Wahooo. It supports it's own weight....stay tuned :cool:


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Post by Mudzuki »

Any idea of when the job will be complete and engineered?
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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

more progress
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