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Hard top into 2 seater ute

Tech Talk for Suzuki owners.

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Post by Aerenandmel »

gman79au wrote:whats funny is when the sierra's run out this same thead will be going on but about the model below
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Post by suzuki boy »

Gwagensteve wrote:I bought a Maruti one about 10 years ago. At that stage the going rate was $400 from a wrecker, however, there are some catches.... literally.

Generally when you get these parts from a wrecker, you won't get the catches that were on the car to hold the roof panel down. Unforutunately, these catches are pretty specific to Suzuki.

The bulkhead from behind the seats on a maruti can't be used in a SWB beacause it doesn't allow for the wheelarch intrusion.

Noel's car (the SWB pic I posted) was the first one of that type I had ever seen. It used to be a trolley tug at a shopping centre. It definitely came from the factory in that configuration. there are heaps of factory nutsets in the tub to hold the bulkhead in, and the B pillar/ windscreen frame are different.

I have seen a few kincking around Melbourne but always thought they were maruti cab backs until noel got nis.

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Is there any wrecker you could reckomend that might have one of these cab cut off things? :?
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Post by Gwagensteve »

Try Fantasy4X4 in mythville, They also have WWII jeeps in crates for $77, a shed full of unimog axles and Hummer H1 double beadlock rims for $25 each.

Mate, they will be very very hard to find. It might be better to try and find a whole maruti ute to get one. If a maruti pops up in Melbourne they are normally pretty cheap - cheaper than in rural areas. Then you can use some stuff off it until you trash your car and then build an engineered LWB project when you need to.

PS farmers like the traybacks more (which were hacked into trays in Melbourne when new) so if you find a styleside ute it *should* be even cheaper.

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Post by Rhett »

Ive cut a few swb into utes and I will probly cut more. Some do look too short with the trays too high but I have been wheeling mine hard for more years as a ute than a swb and I wouldn't go back. And yes a lot of cuts don't have enough weight in the back my tray wieghs about 100kgs without any fuel in it.

Don't listen to what every one says just make sure you think about everythink before you cut. caus its a lot harder to weld back on than cut off.

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Post by suzuki boy »

Rhett i have always liked yours! :cool:

Gwagensteve before i got mine i know of 2 sierra utes on farms at axedale near lake epalok even offered one of them money when i was looking around but he said he wouldn't sell it till it died! :cry: Theres a red one and a yellow one! :cool:

Theres a ute on ebay now that would be awsome if it was in vic! :twisted:

I will just see what happens but i love where mine go's now and don't really want to change much at all untill the body gets more dinted but at the moment it's the corners that are taking a beating!

WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE! :twisted:
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Post by Gwagensteve »

Just plate the corners with some smooth steel sheet. Doesn't have to be very thick - 2mm would do - it's the surface area that does the trick not the thickness. They will last forever.

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Post by grimbo »

Rhett you appear to have extended your wheelbase which if you had read all the posts in here is what many o f us have been saying. They look and perform ok with the extended wheelbase whereas they look bad and perform no better on stock SWB
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Post by Gwagensteve »

(Not bagging your car Rhett)

Rhett's car also looks balanced because the front axle is pulled well forward. Overall, I reckon rhett's WB woudl be pretty close to a normal LWB.
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Post by Highway-Star »

suzuki boy wrote:Rhett i have always liked yours! :cool:

Gwagensteve before i got mine i know of 2 sierra utes on farms at axedale near lake epalok even offered one of them money when i was looking around but he said he wouldn't sell it till it died! :cry: Theres a red one and a yellow one! :cool:

Theres a ute on ebay now that would be awsome if it was in vic! :twisted:

That ute on ebay won't have the roof your after. Sorry if you realised this, I'm just saying incase you thought it might. The maruti didn't come out in australia untill the 90's, that ute is said to be a '81 model. Or did I miss one...

It takes a bit to get some farmers to part with there vehicles, watever condition:
Theres been an old paddock thrashing zook I've been eyeing off for parts for about a year or so, and I was informed the other day that the owners kids use it to 'play' in the backyard :cry: . Oh well Scratch that one off my list. I can relate, about 1 month after I bought mine, guy at the local papershop said "How much you want for it?", I looked at him funny, and said "try the trading post".
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Post by suziguy »

hey all, i am new to this site, i have had my suzi for a while now, but i did a ute chop, diffiantly took longer than i expected, i can say now that i am sick of welding and cutting, and i am deffiantly sick of Bog, but i am happy with the way my suzi came out, i dont know how legal it is though but i am planning of getting a engineers for it any ways, i will post up pics soon....
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Post by Gwagensteve »

Sorry to sound like a downer, but with ANY modification, if you plan to engineer the car, you ned to talk to an engineer BEFORE you start he project.

Engineers need to be involved in the project from the planning stage and most won't touch a car thats already been modified.

If you photographed the build well and can explain exactly what you did, you might be OK, but don't be surprised if you struggle to find someone who will cert it after the fact.

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Post by damo1984narrow »

gman79au wrote:whats funny is when the sierra's run out this same thead will be going on but about the model below

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I took this pic in S.A about two years ago.I did not have a close look but met the owners mate who said he bought it new at a suzi dealer.This pic was posted by kristovr on vic suzi site back then i believe.(Yes S.A is another country)
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Post by zookieboi »

thought id continue this thread cause its so useful. buying a 91 soft top sierra for 500 bucks soon ( wont say where it is hahahahahahah lol ) engine and everything runs beautiful but the rear half of the car has seen better days. it seems like the perfect sierra to go under the knife.
before i do this could anyone tell me from their experience of any MAJOR troubles you had on the way to getting it registered. or is it all smooth sailing after its been engineered? ive got some crazy ideas for it :twisted:
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Post by joeblow »

why do people chop shorties into so-called utes and have them on swb chassis?.....looks awfull....
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Post by zookieboi »

the most feasible reason i could think of is because they feel like it?
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Post by joeblow »

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Post by zookieboi »

mate dont get all worked up about it... the back end of the car is stuffed anyway..
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Post by ZUKPOWER »

i chopped mine (and now regret it) but if the backs that stuffed why not have some fun :D who knows you might come up with something that actually looks half decent.
I got mine engineered and rego'd no probs. just make sure you do a decent job of it, and if you can, move the rear diff back an inch or two, makes fitting larger tyres easier and also looks a whole lot better
oh and make sure your tray covers your tyres and the mud flaps are max 230mm from the ground. And i could be wrong (it has happened before :oops: ) but i dont think the tray can be welded to the chassis??
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Post by zookieboi »

thanks a heap man! yeah i was thinking of using the back door off of a hardtop for it and ive got a little idea in my head of having the tray on a hinge so that it can tilt backwards and i can open the rear door behind the seats dont know what i could use it for yet though.
thanks again for the info dude and yeah i dont think it can be welded to the chassis i was gunna run a roll bar on the tray and then run it to the back of the tray.
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Post by grimbo »

and that pic is there because? It's not a swb cut into a ute, looks like a factory ute so not sure of reason why you would post a random pic like that
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Post by skez »

grimbo wrote:and that pic is there because? It's not a swb cut into a ute, looks like a factory ute so not sure of reason why you would post a random pic like that
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Post by zookieboi »

grimbo wrote:and that pic is there because? It's not a swb cut into a ute, looks like a factory ute so not sure of reason why you would post a random pic like that
i posted it there so that it would appear on google when you type
" Suzuki ute "
good enough excuse for you?
it didn't even work anyway lol
gosh i hope your not so aggressive to people over silly little things that don't even matter when your talking to someone face to face.
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Post by mr green »

can't wait to see how you are going to make a hard top door fit on a soft top. i'm having enough trouble working out how to do a decent job of welding a hard top door on a hard top,
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Post by just cruizin' »

I thought about that too and gave up on the idea. I just folded up a sheet to match the profile and folded a return onto it and I'll sika it in.

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Post by grimbo »

zookieboi wrote:
grimbo wrote:and that pic is there because? It's not a swb cut into a ute, looks like a factory ute so not sure of reason why you would post a random pic like that
i posted it there so that it would appear on google when you type
" Suzuki ute "
good enough excuse for you?
it didn't even work anyway lol
gosh i hope your not so aggressive to people over silly little things that don't even matter when your talking to someone face to face.
not sure how my question is aggressive. And I don't understand your answer.

Is that your Zuk or is it what you want it to look like or is there another reason?
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Post by zookieboi »

grimbo wrote:
zookieboi wrote:
grimbo wrote:and that pic is there because? It's not a swb cut into a ute, looks like a factory ute so not sure of reason why you would post a random pic like that
i posted it there so that it would appear on google when you type
" Suzuki ute "
good enough excuse for you?
it didn't even work anyway lol
gosh i hope your not so aggressive to people over silly little things that don't even matter when your talking to someone face to face.
not sure how my question is aggressive. And I don't understand your answer.

Is that your Zuk or is it what you want it to look like or is there another reason?
lol sorry, a misunderstanding then.
yeah thats my ute, got it for 1k with rego so i scrapped the conversion idea..
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Post by grimbo »

no worries sounds like a pretty good deal. Is it a 1 or 1.3 litre
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Post by zookieboi »

grimbo wrote:no worries sounds like a pretty good deal. Is it a 1 or 1.3 litre
1987, 1.3l
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Post by grimbo »

sweet that's what mine started as ,as well
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