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trouble selecting reverse

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trouble selecting reverse

Post by HOOD »

Ok I've had my Roza for a week now.
And I've found it hard to select reverse gear with out crunching it.
I have how ever found that some times if I run the gear shift through the other gears first it helps. But then today even when I did that it still wouldn't let me put it into reverse.
And yes the clutch was fully disengaged.
So whats the deal? is this a common problem and whats the fix for it?

I've found also that the clutch pedal nearly hits the floor before it disengages is this normal or does it need adjusting or replacing?

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Post by MightyMouse »

Reverse always seemed to crunch on mine as well so AFAIK its just the gearbox. Sometimes had to put it into first and then reverse.....

The fix is to use another brand of gearbox :D


Clutch pedal does drop as the clutch wears - but it could just need cable adjustment. Be cautious in your adjustment however as if you get it wrong you can wear out your release bearing. Suggest you read the section in the manual and follow its advice.
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Post by meece4x4 »

yep second that,

mine crunches most times, also have to do the 1st, 2nd, double clutcher sometimes to select rev. you get used to it :lol:
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Post by ferozamaniac »

Mine also the reverse is very sensitive. One thing you can do is to first stop with no gear and after 2 seconds slowly put the reverse (most ola JAPAN cars do that). 100% you have no problem is very common you just need to be carefull.
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Post by HOOD »

Thanks guys.
Aleast now I know it wasn't just me and others have the same issues.

Will check out the clutch situation over the weekend.

MM you say another brand of gear box.........So what other units bolt up to the Roza?
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Post by Newtothefourbeworld »

i think he was just janking your chain mate but i could be wrong
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Post by murcod »

Mine never grated when selecting reverse.

I'd be checking clutch adjustment- make sure there is a bit of slack in the cable when it's released.
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Post by HOOD »

murcod wrote:I'd be checking clutch adjustment- make sure there is a bit of slack in the cable when it's released.
Will do cheers.
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Post by jav »

if it's the same as a rocky you'll want about 1 inch free travel on the pedel. 25.4mm for the whipper snappers. :lol:
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Post by MightyMouse »

Newtothefourbeworld wrote:i think he was just janking your chain mate but i could be wrong
Well yes it was ort of a joke but I fixed mine by converting to an auto. Never grated reverse again. :D
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Post by HOOD »

jav wrote:if it's the same as a rocky you'll want about 1 inch free travel on the pedel. 25.4mm for the whipper snappers. :lol:
Can you tell me what that is in Architectual degres minutes and seconds. :lol: ;)


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Post by Buggerific »

So, hypothetically, If my clutch cable is tight to the point that there's a few mm free travel in the pedal it should be loosened off quick smart?
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Post by jav »

I wouldn't stress about it long as there is some free play.
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Post by Buggerific »

Yeah there's not much... Also the clutch squeeks now which i was thinking could be the cable was too tight but I havent had a chance to see what's going on... Might back it off a couple of clicks and see how she goes
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Post by meece4x4 »

4RunnerBoy wrote:Yeah there's not much... Also the clutch squeeks now which i was thinking could be the cable was too tight but I havent had a chance to see what's going on... Might back it off a couple of clicks and see how she goes
that squeak?! ...another 'hatsu thang :lol: mines does it .. my mates one does it and the two in the local car yards I took for a drive recently (Just to compare ;) ) they all squeak when you push the clutch in ... I can make mine go away for a few days by spraying wd40 down the clutch cable ... aways comes back tho ..now I dont bother with it

it's a bit like the fan belt squeal when cold ..... or the reverse gears .... it's the little oddball things like that make owning a Feroza fun :cool:
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Post by Buggerific »

My driver's seat also squeaks...

But I think the clutch cable is probably a little tight so I'll back it off a touch and see if its any better.

My fan belts and such don't squeak so it's all good!
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Post by HOOD »

Had a looksy today at the clutch cable and there is about an inch of free playbefore it starts to grab........but then I have to push the pedal literaly to the floor before it completely disengages which seems really odd to me compares to other manual cars I've owned.
I also looked at the adjustment bit for the clutch cable. and from the adjustment point all the threaded section is hangin on the side closest to the front of the car. So I'm assuming that there is no more adjustment left in it, is that correct? and if so It's looking like it's time to replace the clutch :x
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Post by murcod »

IIRC you can adjust it up at the firewall (top end) as well. It does sound like there is too much slack in it- there should just be a little bit of slack in the cable.
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