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Nf Pajero, auto changing gear way to late.

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Nf Pajero, auto changing gear way to late.

Post by Wadezz »

hey all,

Im having some trouble with my 4wd,

I went 4wdin on the weekend and iv done something to the gear box
its changing gear sometimes at liek 4500rpm but this dont happen all
the time i have no idea what it is, and yesterday i was driving and it got
stuck in 2nd but i turned it of and after that it drove fine.

Was driving today had no dramas and i just went to take my bros girl
friend home and on the way back i had to fit about 4500rpm before she
changed gear,

could it just need a service or somthing electical has just loosend of, i
cheaked teh tranmation and it has plenty of fluid, is this something serious
or could it be somehting as simple as a loose wire, and its a auto gear box
the stock nf one of you didt no.

Thx wade
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Post by gen1swbute »

it could be a loose wire...look under neath th e car and see if the auto pan is caved in ?? :? if it ok and the oil doesnt smell burnt it most prob a wire but if all else fails the box could be on the way out
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Post by Wadezz »

Thx m8, im going to get under tommoro and cheak that out,

basicly now it wont change into any gear at all unless i get 5000rpm
and its just happend like that, so id say tou are right because if the
gear box was on its way out it would happen slowly it wouldnt just happen
like that, my oil is fine and i put some transmition treatment in it also.

I really hope your right i think you are we will find out tommoro, thanks m8,

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Post by Wadezz »

oo,

And m8, this may sound dumb.... but what is a auto pan,

Thx Wade ;)
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Post by Wadezz »

hey,

I cheaked all that stuff today and i had no luck is there anything eles it
could be.

or what wire would it be that would be making it do this i have no idea what

i am looking for. :lol:

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Post by dans-paj92 »

maybe the computer shat itself... in my dads 100 series the problem it ahd with the auto was that it wouldnt change down... he would be driving along and then come to a stop and the car would try and take off in the gear he stopped in eg. 3rd.... so go to the mitsubishi dealer and get them to plug the diagnostics computer into it...
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Post by Wadezz »

hmm, could it be that being an 89 pajero?

and wont that cost a lot
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Post by dans-paj92 »

hey mate,
ummm.... not sure how much... my dads car was covered by warranty and was a company car...
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Post by Wadezz »

hmmm,

well i gotta try get this prob fixed before next thurday:S:S

so i need to know all posible things that could have gone wronge,
and like if its a wire or something what wire under the car would
make it not change gear untill 5000rpm, i have no idea:S this is
a big prob considering im suppose to go away next weekend lol.

Any input on how to fix this would be muchly appechated thx

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Post by -Scott- »

It sounds like the trans thinks you're foot-flat when you're not - which could be a kickdown cable in need of some attention.

I suggest you find a Gregory's Manual - you'd probably have this solved already. :D
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Post by Wadezz »

thx scott,

my m8 told me the same thing i tryed following the cable down but
one cable seemed to go above the gear box so i couldnt see it and
the other went into the side of it and it screws in the side not sure
what that one was for exacttly, and can u explain to me what a
Gregory's Manual is and where can i get one from.

also will i be able to fix this my self m8, because my car wont even
change gear if i put it in L or 2 like change manualy, thx scott your
a legend you seem to no bloody everything m8,

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Post by Wadezz »

okay scott my gfs dad just happens to have this book,

he is scanning me the pages i need now and he is going to send
them to me makes life so much easyer:P, if all goes well ill have
a crack at fixing it my self tommoro if its possible for me to fix it.

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Post by -Scott- »

A Gregory's Manual is an aftermarket repair manual (like a light-weight service manual.) It looks like Gregory's Manuals are now owned by Hayne's, who make something similar.

http://www.haynes.com.au/category138_1.htm

Most of the larger auto-parts places will sell them, but not every store will stock every manual.

Gregory's Number 508 covers Pajero NA-NG, but it lists as 4 cylinder only, so that may not help. However, the tech info database lists the NF V6 as having the same auto trans as the 4 cylinder (KM148) while later models (NG onwards) have V4AW2 - so the manual will probably still help for this problem, and just about everything non-engine related.

Perhaps you should look for the Hayne's Manual (#68765), which covers NJ-NJ. Last time I was in Repco they had some Hayne's manuals for $40.

Good luck,

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Post by Wadezz »

Thx very much scott,

MY gfs brother is gonna scan the pages once his dad finishes talking
and tells him what pages to scan lmao, but ill have em tonight so ill
give it a bash tommoro i really hop i can fix it.

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Post by Wadezz »

hey m8,

I had some good and bad luck, mainly good lol,
my gfs dad couldnt find the book so i thought id have a go at it my
self and i found the kick down cable and it was seased up really badly
so i put wd40 in it and spent a few hours freeing it up but now it works,
better than it ever has changes gear perfectly and it use to clunk into
gear and it dont do it any more.
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Thank You very much :armsup:

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Post by gp339gm339 »

I have the same problem on my NF (to many mud baths)

I have tried the CRC on the cable, but it keeps jamming

Has any replaced the kick down manual, can it be down while the trannie is still the vehicle

The manual I have shows that the auto must be pulled apart to get to the kick down cable. (bottom cover,
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