EBC brake pads (green or redstuff)

[fatassgq]

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone has had any experience good or bad with the EBC range of brake pads?

I have been told to go the greenstuff but according to there web site it appears that the red stuff would be the go.

The vehicle in question is a GU 4.8 and is mainly used as a shopping trolley for the missus but the brakes are pretty average on a big heavy truck

Any info appreciated

Thanks

[Slunnie]

I'm not sure about redstuff, but I doubt that it would suit due to cold performance.

Greenstuff.... there is greenstuff and there is greenstuff.

The 2000 series greenstuff pad, which is the true greenstuff compound is unbelievably good! You'll never fade them, the friction is excellent. the make no noise and they are fairly dust free. An interesting pad also in the respect that you can feel them initially come on if you brake cold. I don't have enough praising words for this pad.

The 6000 series 4x4 pad which is also also marketed and painted as a greenstuff.... well... don't waste your money in my opinion. They friction from them is just normal and they are suceptable to fade and will still dust up. I'd look somewhere else.

[chunks]

Don't do it, they are crap unless your driving hard all the time, stick to a heavy duty pad like the Bendix GCT 4WD pads or similiar. I've put Greenstuff in street cars before and they just squeal their heads off until there is some heat in them.

[Micky-Lux]

Don't do it, they are crap unless your driving hard all the time, stick to a heavy duty pad like the Bendix GCT 4WD pads or similiar. I've put Greenstuff in street cars before and they just squeal their heads off until there is some heat in them.

Interesting to hear that. I have Bendix in my Lux, and they squeal their heads off too until you put some real heat in them.

[fatassgq]

Cheers for the replies.
I think at this stage I may just stick to the bendix. Easier to get hold of thru work anyway.

Only thing that puts me off is that I put a set of Bendix 4wd pads in a cruiser years ago and they where horrible. It seems that they have changed though as many swear by them them.

[suzukiboy]

I have EBC greenstuff in my street car no noise, alot better feel on the pedal and much improved braking.

[6.5 rangie]

Don't do it, they are crap unless your driving hard all the time, stick to a heavy duty pad like the Bendix GCT 4WD pads or similiar. I've put Greenstuff in street cars before and they just squeal their heads off until there is some heat in them.

Interesting to hear that. I have Bendix in my Lux, and they squeal their heads off too until you put some real heat in them.

x2, but when you get them hot they fade, well mine did when coming down the hill from Mt Hotham with no load in the car, scary when you have a 2 year old in the back and the wifes 6 months pregnant. I'll never get em again

[mavzilla]

If its a shopping trolley and not driven hard, then bendix is all ya need. bed them in properly and you wont have any problems.

[simcoz]

Go back to standard size tyres and your brakes will be better

[Slunnie]

Cheers for the replies.
I think at this stage I may just stick to the bendix. Easier to get hold of thru work anyway.

Only thing that puts me off is that I put a set of Bendix 4wd pads in a cruiser years ago and they where horrible. It seems that they have changed though as many swear by them them.

Im not sure that the compound in the Bendix is still the same. As I understand it, the compound has recently been changed and is not as good as the old formula. This I found out through the brake distributor when trying to source/sort the problems and solutions with the EBC Greens.

[Ruggers]

since they got rid of asbestos in brakes they have been had of different compounds for the last few years the reason for brake squeal, and lots of dust there are low dust but the they are a hard and tend to squeal, if you get bad squeal you can get stuff tp put on the back and slides of the pads to help prevent it and also get you discs machined or as least rub the glazing off with a sand paper in a criss cross pattern,

[chunks]

I have had problems with Bendix pads in the past but the current generation seem to be ok. I always machine the rotors or replace them if undersize. We also always use a Wurth anti squeal compund on the back of the pad, we have been using it for 6+ years and rarely have a problem.

[bogged]

I always found in the GQ that OEM pads were best by far.. ferodo, ebc, Bendix (why they call them 4x4 pads NFI) ...

Just asking same question on patrol forum for my GU cause mine are knackered.

$141 per end for Nissan pads for TD6...

x2, but when you get them hot they fade, well mine did when coming down the hill from Mt Hotham with no load in the car, scary when you have a 2 year old in the back and the wifes 6 months pregnant. I'll never get em again

x 2

[bogged]

Reds $220 per end from place I just called

[fatassgq]

I am thinking of going with the Lucas pads from one of our suppliers at work.

I have heard that they can be a bit dusty but I don't give a fuck as long as they work. Couple of guys I know have run em and say they work well. Was worried at first as it seems like they were a softer pad but the bloke told me they should handle up to 600+ deg. so sound ok.

When I eventually get round to putting the shitbox on the hoist I will see how it goes.
I am thinking of running some braided hoses too as I have heard they offer better pedal feel. I always thought this was crap overrated hype but a lot of reports later I am keen to try for myself.

[bogged]

I am thinking of going with the Lucas pads from one of our suppliers at work.

I have heard that they can be a bit dusty but I don't give a . as long as they work. Couple of guys I know have run em and say they work well. Was worried at first as it seems like they were a softer pad but the bloke told me they should handle up to 600+ deg. so sound ok..

they are the TRW Lucas ones - $244 retail!

the prices and brands I got today - some are doubled up, as I rang bout 10+ places... prices vary by upto $50 on same pads not listed, I didnt bother to write them down!!


Normal Lucas
f $ 110
r $ 110
--------------
f lucas $ 99
r protex $76
--------------
Ferodo
f$62
r $82
-------------
Bendix 4x4
f $103
r$103
-------------

TRW = 650 degrees
F - $244 RETAIL
R - $244 RETAIL

Chick actually said to me, she wouldnt expect to sell many at that price, you can have them for $150per end.
-------------------------
bendix 4x4
f $117
r $117

[Slunnie]

I've got the TRW Lucas ones in the rear at the moment as I couldn't get any rear EBC 2000 series Greenstuffs. They squeel and it's really annoying. I've been given some material to put behind the pads to stop the vibration, but I haven't done that yet. The are the equivilents to the EBC green as I understand it. I cant really comment on the braking performance of the pad as they are only rears which don't do a lot in the grand scheme of things.

[6.5 rangie]

I am thinking of going with the Lucas pads from one of our suppliers at work.

I have heard that they can be a bit dusty but I don't give a . as long as they work. Couple of guys I know have run em and say they work well. Was worried at first as it seems like they were a softer pad but the bloke told me they should handle up to 600+ deg. so sound ok..

they are the TRW Lucas ones - $244 retail!

the prices and brands I got today - some are doubled up, as I rang bout 10+ places... prices vary by upto $50 on same pads not listed, I didnt bother to write them down!!


Normal Lucas
f $ 110
r $ 110
--------------
f lucas $ 99
r protex $76
--------------
Ferodo
f$62
r $82
-------------
Bendix 4x4
f $103
r$103
-------------

TRW = 650 degrees
F - $244 RETAIL
R - $244 RETAIL

Chick actually said to me, she wouldnt expect to sell many at that price, you can have them for $150per end.
-------------------------
bendix 4x4
f $117
r $117

I bought 4 rda rotors (disco) and f & r TRW lucas pads from better brakes in cheltnham for around $380, so paid no where near that price, definately had TRW Lucas on the box

[bogged]

ended up going with OEM pads again.. $110 per