h.i.d lights from china.. yes or no??

Post by **tna racing** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:27 pm

they wire up like standed after market lights

if your talkin about hi/low versions i think there the same

Post by **vSAHARAx** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:31 pm

Hey Bushy, What are those LED things under the headlights on your patrol? Do you have a pic of them? Also is there a huge difference between the standard XGT's and the 55W HID conversion. Could you please send me a price including post to brizzy for the XGT kit?

Cheers Troy.

Post by **bushy555** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:55 am

> got any links to this seller?

Hiking1978.
Item: 250262158404

and Heh!. Didn't i stuff up. $100.00, not $110.00

> I took off my PIAA large spotties
*snip*
> Can the HID kits be fitted easily with a male 3 point
> plug and just hook up to the female plug or is it a
> whole new approach.

PIAA super rallye's?
Yep, the H4 hi/lo HID just fits straight in. Mount the ballasts and the relay control relay box (different to every kit), and then just connect it straight into the existing wiring. Connect the two power wires from the control relay box to battery. Job done. Your existing spottie hi/lo switch will still do the hi/lo thang on the spotties.
I have no comparison pics with these lights though. From memory they come with 130w/180w halogen fat boy bulbs.

> Hey Bushy, What are those LED things under the
> headlights on your patrol? Do you have a pic of them?
> Also is there a huge difference between the standard
> XGT's and the 55W HID conversion.
> Could you please send me a price including post to
> brizzy for the XGT kit?

LED's: Six 5mm white leds fitted to bit of plastic underneath both headlights. Just had to even it out since there are six 5mm red led's at the rear. All just connected to the parking lights. Dunno why, got bored one day and had a play. Just for the different look. Six led's mounted up underneath in the intercooler scoop as well. Trying to find pic, but cant find one.

Difference between real LF 240HID (35 watt) and a DIY 55w is a bit of difference, and dollars that you save can be put into your fuel tank.
I do not know if Lightforce have fixed their 50watter 240HID's.
Last I heard their 50w'ers were taken off the market due to a lot of their ballasts going *pop*. This was un-confirmed, and may have been a rumor...

XGT do-it-yourself instruction kit: $10.00
(then just need to grab a H3 HID kit)
Complete modified XGT's: ~750 range.

Post by **Ruffy** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:25 am

I'm selling XGT's, brand new in box, complete with warranty and reciept, for $450.00pr +postage, for outers members.
Bushy's Kit, $10. From Bushy
Ebay HID kit <$200.
How cheap do you want HID's to be??

Also got the NEW Narva 225's.. $300.00pr

Dan

Post by **ORSM4B** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:48 pm

l just bought H3 HID kit from ebay and they are from China recieved them in 5 days, fitted them last night 55w 6000k and they are a very white light once they warm up....l will be buying some more from this ebayer as comunication is fantastic...

Cheers Chris

Post by **hulsty** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:56 pm

bushy555 wrote:Bushy's ramblings:

> how do ebay high/low bulbs work? i know there is some sort
> of mechanism that moves inside the bulb, but what moves
> and how?

There are three types of moving mechanisms that I know of.
1) Moving bubl in and out, conencted to the solenoid. Personally I reckon this would suck, since the amount of *shock* that is giving the bulb is heaps. Unfortunately tihs is in the few H4 kits that I had. One left in stock. Didn't know until I got them here.
Anyway, had some chinese chick try to tell me the other day 'good product, sliding bulb best. sliding shield no good. All fail. Our product not once fail. 2 dollar sucky sucky?'

2) Moving / sliding sheild - connected to solenoid. Prolly the best I reckon. The moving metal sheild creates the high and low beam - light pattern cut off points. Is what I chucked into my ute nearly four years ago, and so far have not needed to touch them. Cheap chinese crap back then and still works.

3) Tilting bulb - the bulb tilts from standard horizontal position to that of around 15 to 20 degrees which creates the lo and high beam pattern. Again, moving bulb --- shock factor --- not real good in my opionion.

Hey mate, soon i'll be looking for a Hi/Low H4 setup, since my stockers REALLY suck! can you recommend any where to look for decent ones, like option 2? really dont want my primary lighting to die out bush!

cheers

Post by **Mark2** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:17 pm

ISUZUROVER wrote:Bushy - I have a couple of Narva bull lights I would like to convert. Can you PM me a price?

Are slimline ballasts best for fitting into bull lights or will any ballast fit into a Narva Bull light?

Post by **bushy555** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:28 am

> soon i'll be looking for a Hi/Low H4 setup, since my
> stockers REALLY suck! can you recommend any
> where to look for decent ones, like option 2?
> really dont want my primary lighting to die out bush!

Other than asking individual sellers on ebay - not really sure.
Have one set sitting on lounge room floor which are option 1.
Can always asked Andrew E how his three H4 hi/lo kits are going for durability.
I don't know what Steve's 'On4ToU' kits are.
I am pretty sure that Paul Sinclair of www.brightlightautoparts.com (melbourne) are sheild sliders. But better verify with him.

I could always pull my sheild slider 35watters out of me ute and you could have them for a few dollars. And I'll fit the bulb slider 55 watters...

> Are slimline ballasts best for fitting into bull lights or
> will any ballast fit into a Narva Bull light?

Any ballast will fit. Even the dead set early version 1 massive ballasts will easily fit into any 'bull light' that I have so far come across. Hella, Narva, Tri-light. In fact, you could just about nearly fit two normal sized ballasts in the housing.
Shame that a ballast can't fit one in the back of an IPF 800 , IPF 900 etc.
Slim line might just fit, though have not had the opportunity to try.

Did this last night: Comparo between a 240 Blitz with and without HID.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NBVluqdYjY

vSAHARAx: Piccy of parker LED's in it.

Roses are red
Violets are blue
I've got Alzheimers
This little piggy went to market

Post by **bushy555** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:57 pm

story continues...

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.......Shoved the 4300k 55w kit into Hella Rallye 2000's on friday arvo.
Went out at 9:30pm out of town to align the spotties back up.
[This is the first 4300k kit I have ever played with]
Turned them on, and holy smackarooney. They are good! I was impressed.

Old mate who owned the ute and lights... was just completely gob smacked. I was too stupid to take me camera, so no video or pics.

For ultimate light output, 4300k is certainly the G.O.

So my useless opinion on the original thread question, ebay cheap HID kit, yes/no? For $100.00, I would. I have done. I will do again.

Post by **tna racing** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:34 am

has any one hid'd narva projector 240's before?

the square ones in this picture

Post by **bushy555** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:19 pm

I've got some Narva somethings sitting on my bench in the shed. The plastic rear housings were all smashed and I have glued and screwed them into hella comet 151 plastic housings. The H3 HID bulbs definately fit, though have not turned them on for a photo shoot.
I do not know if they are 'projector 240' or another model, but certainly look the same physical size.

Post by **tna racing** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:32 pm

projectors run a magnyfieing glass infront of the globe

Post by **midi73** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:12 pm

tna racing wrote:projectors run a magnyfieing glass infront of the globe

What are these like. Do they work well for a HID setup?

Post by **tna racing** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:24 pm

i recon they would. thats why i wanna no

being a long distance spread beam it would be cool.

im keen to try. just dont want to stuff $$$ lights

Post by **midi73** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:36 pm

tna racing wrote:i recon they would. thats why i wanna no

being a long distance spread beam it would be cool.

im keen to try. just dont want to stuff $$$ lights

Are you refering to these? This is what I want to know what they are like.

Post by **tna racing** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:42 pm

nah there not the ones. see the squares in the picture i posted. thats them

Post by **sudso** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:09 am

Regarding HID conversions to factory headlights: isnt it illegal unless the headlights or HID globes have integrated bulb shields in front of the globes?

Post by **LFONZ** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:36 am

anyone interested i might be able to do narva71700 HID lamp kit multi buy. $880 a pair with loom. Will need some numbers to confirm price. pm if interested.

Post by **Ruffy** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:07 pm

sudso wrote:Regarding HID conversions to factory headlights: isnt it illegal unless the headlights or HID globes have integrated bulb shields in front of the globes?

To LEGALLY convert standard headlights to HID according to the ADR's, the lght must be self leveling, must have some form of self cleaning(washers) and must have bulb shields.
Dan

Post by **bushy555** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:21 pm

Ruffy wrote:To LEGALLY convert standard headlights to HID according to the ADR's, the lght must be self leveling, must have some form of self cleaning(washers) and must have bulb shields.

ADR 77 and ADR78 goes on and on. Some more rubbish:
Max of 35w.
No more than 4300k in colour.
Housings must conform to E4 something or other.
Must be euro and not Japan or US spread pattern.
Bulb must be of some exact type, shape and size.
Pattern must be within certain measured specs.

Certainly gave someone a job in canberra for a bit.

Re: Projecter 240's. Mine are smaller --- certainly don't have the magnifier bit.

> narva71700 HID lamp kit multi buy
Specs of these? 35 watt?, ie 3000 odd lumen?

Post by **tna racing** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:32 pm

your's would be the replacements for them

Post by **clm434** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:19 pm

Ruffy wrote:To LEGALLY convert standard headlights to HID according to the ADR's, the light must be self leveling, OR must have some form of self cleaning(washers) OR must have bulb shields.
Dan

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that is how it is written.

I know Honda doesn't have headlight washer nozzels and I'm checking dads on the weekend to check for an auto-levelling system as I have a feeling it doesn't have one.

Why? Because I'm now about 1/3 of the way through modifying a set of those 'crystal' headlights with a set of BMW HID projectors (and copying the Honda setup gives me ammo to valididate legality of the conversion)

I'll post pics when its done for if anyone else wants a set made.

Post by **on4tou** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:14 pm

We are well and truely over the sliding mechanism type for headlight upgrades. We replaced every set we sold with the style we Have which is a dual globe arrangement (either angled or straight with a shield). You can check them out at www.hidrus.com.au. Our products are dearer than what you can get on ebay for a number of reasons.
2 year full replacemet warranty. 99% of the time we send the replacemet part to you the next day on the rare occasion something does fail (So far only about 1% of the products we have supplied have had a failure)
35w have a minimum of 3200 lumens
50w have a minimum of 4500 lumens up to 5200 (most 55w ebay kits only have 3200 lumens)
I am only a phone call away if you have any queries re fitting etc.
All products have been tried and tested for quaility, globe colour, startup by us to ensure customer satisfaction. A number of the top competition guys run our lights and can contest to their qualiy.
I am always looking for the next thing (now have 80w available) ( convert XGT't to 100w)
We custom build most lights to your requirements (even we think 160w is well and truely overkill, but if thats what you want.)
We do adjustable XGT adaptors so you can convert them to spot, spread or flood as well as the std lightforce adaptors. They are all new fully cnc machined aluminium heat sinks.
repeat customers get great deals. New customers get good deals
If you have any problems at all just give a call and i will sort it out for as quickly as I can.
We also have a new range of full internal ballast hid lights from 6" to 9".
We also supply the 7" round Projectional headlights as well as a new bling style in round and square. I will try to upload the photos but in the meantime if you want me to email me it to you just pm me. (or if you want me to email them so you can post them for me it would be appreciated.)
Heading off to cliffhanger now
Steve
On 4 to U
0427 209 885

Post by **bushy555** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:40 pm

Errr... Steve, a dead set legit question.

On your webbie:
http://www.hidrus.com.au./spotlight-upgrades.htm

"Hella 1000/2000/4000/"

How do you do Hella 1000's??????
All the Hella 1000's that I have seen use a H2 bulb. Same as a few models of the Cibie's.

How do you do this? A H2 bulb? (am confused)

Post by **ausyota** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:12 pm

I fitted a set of 50watt chinese HIDs from Hiking1978 on Ebay to my Ford Territorys H7 high beams yesterday.
$100 delivered and seem to be very good.
Made the high beams bright as hell, I got them in 5000k colour.
So far very happy!
Paul.

Post by **j-top paj** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:51 am

thinking about going HID for the bike,
how do the kits usually install? is it just "plug and play"

Post by **Ruffy** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:27 am

j-top paj wrote:thinking about going HID for the bike,
how do the kits usually install? is it just "plug and play"

Pretty much..
A man of your ability will have it done in 15 minutes

Post by **LFONZ** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:53 am

HIDs might melt the plastic light housing, I was going to run them in my bike but got warned I shouldn’t.
Can anyone confirm or deny

Post by **j-top paj** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:46 pm

LFONZ wrote:HIDs might melt the plastic light housing,

didnt think of that, il have to find out more.
there was a thread on the bike forum im on about a group buy for HIDs but got cancelled from lack of interest. i may have to dig it back up

Post by **ausyota** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:26 pm

Someone on here has tested the temp output from a HID bulb, Bushy I think it might have been, and from memory they run cooler than a 100 watt halogen bulb.

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