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who has a 1.6 single point injected Vit?

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who has a 1.6 single point injected Vit?

Post by Pyrotech »

hey all, im trying to track down a single point vit MAP sensor, but the spare parts place wants a VIN.

now the trouble is, i dont have the car, only the EFI system, so if anyone can help me out with a VIN number from their car, that would be freaking awsome.

please let me know

Thanks in advance

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Post by Gwagensteve »

You do know these weren't sold in Aus don't you?

Best bet might be a trip to a pull it yourself type wrecker and grab a handful of nippondenso MAP's - they're generally all pretty similar.

The local Pick-a-part to my work often has TBI swifts in it, my guess is it will be the same MAP as the TBI vitara, (and probably the same MAP used in hundreds of other japanese cars.

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Post by Pyrotech »

Thank you steve,

and no i didnt know that they wernt sold in Aus

i am trying to set up Mark's (MUD4B) old fuel injection system on my sierra, and thats the only thing missing, and i can get a hole of him to ask what MAP sensor he used, but i kinda figure a 1.6 would be the way to go...

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Post by Gwagensteve »

1.6 vits all ran AFM not MAP

Try a baleno, Jimny, or TBI swift for starters.

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Post by lay80n »

The swifts should be the same. What places wanted a VIN? If its Kloster parts dont worry, even with a VIN they are useless unless you want a Falcon oil filter. I dunno whats going on with your work email Greg, i will call you later.

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Post by joeblow »

if you had posted this up at the start of the week i could have got you a part number, we had one here. if you have drama finding one let me know as i can still get to the vehicle.
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Post by want33s »

Not quite sure if it's the right one or not. :?

O.E. #18590-60B00,18590-60E00


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Post by Pyrotech »

Gwagensteve wrote:1.6 vits all ran AFM not MAP
Steve.
i didnt know there was a difference, as you can probably tell, i know nothing about EFI,

so any or all help is greatly appreciated
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Post by Gwagensteve »

NO worries - AFM = air flow meter, up near the air filter. uses the velocity of the incoming air to work out the amount of fuel the car needs.

MAP= manifold absolute pressure (sensor) uses the pressure (typically vacuum in a NA car) in the manifold to work out how much fuel the car needs.

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Post by Pyrotech »

Thanking you Steve,

so from reading the above info, a 1.6 Swift MAP should do the trick?
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Post by Gwagensteve »

That's very likely.

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Post by lay80n »

ACDELCO Part # 2134431

I have contacts with AC Delco (used to work for Holden) so i will see if this number comes good and what the $$$ is (this is the MAP sensor off a O/S 1.3L suzuki TBI, it looks to be the same as used in most of the zook TBI setups on the G series motors.


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Post by mr green »

while your talking maps and afms, (slight hijack) does anyone know if the values are the same. eg. can you fit a afm to a system that should have a map. i'll need to know this when i go to force feed a jimny top end. sorry for the hijack pyro but if they can be swapped over i will post my map sensor to you if you want it.
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Post by Gwagensteve »

No, there will be a very different range of values and response between the two.

There have been some interceptor boxes sold in Japan that remove the stock AFM on nissan RB/SR engines and use a MAP and some electronics to fool the nissan ECU into thinking it still has a AFM attached. It's a very japanese solution to percieved restriction in stock RB AFMs.

Apparently the converters have pretty coarse resolution though so they don't lead to the nicest tune.

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Post by Pyrotech »

not a prob MrGreen,

do i need to have a MAP from a similar sized engine car? ie corrola, or swift etc? or can any map be used? and what are the consiquences (sp_ of using the wrong map?
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Post by Gwagensteve »

In short if it has a different range you'll end up with a car that runs rich or lean (but not in neccessarily in a good way) but having said that there's a lot of similarity between lots of japanese cars at that sort of level.

99% sure you'll be fine if you find one off a TBI swift.

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Post by Pyrotech »

thanks again steve, then thats what i'l aim for
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