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WHAT KIND OF GEARS CAN GO IN A 1 LITRE TRANSFER CASE

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WHAT KIND OF GEARS CAN GO IN A 1 LITRE TRANSFER CASE

Post by wideaz »

ive got a 1 litre transfer case with the 4wd light and no handbrake so its the later model

i want 4.1s but i can only find 6.5s but i dont think they will fit
im really after s1rh but they are old any ideas
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Post by Gwagensteve »

If it doesn't have a handbrake it's not a 1.0 case

It might be a maruti case (?)

all gears will fit, there's just some variation in the amount of grinding AFAIK.

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Post by CairnsZook »

Buy a 1.3L t-case.

Sell the 1L t-case. The one you have can be quite hard to find, so there's always people looking for these.

Buy some 4.16:1 gears from http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/samtcase.htm

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Post by joeblow »

and yes, the maruti t/case has 1 litre gearing.
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Post by mrw82 »

1 litre (with switch) and all 1.3 except coily transfers internal parts are interchangable. so all aftermarket gears available will fit your 1 litre case, grinding is only required when fitting equivelant to s3 and s4 ratios.

i've just got some in from lowrange offroad, not too happy with the service he gives but his prices can't be beaten
4.16:1 ratio gears $399.00
shipping $65.00
=$464.00US
bearings and seals purchased locally $120.00
gasket kit purchased locally $9.00

about $600 total to rebuild transfer with 4.16 gears.
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Post by Spike_Sierra »

what was wrong with lowranges service, i have had nothing but the best service from sean and co..

wideaz - did i see you selling s1 rockhoppers just before?
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Post by spzook »

Hey steve you said that it wasnt a 1L if it had no handbrake on it.
This is what mine looks like and i have been told it is a 1L.
Is this right? As this is all it came with.
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Post by mrw82 »

mainly lack of communication. he wasn't very helpful when it came to answering a few questions. then when I placed the order he stuffed it up, and after waiting for a few weeks for his stock to arrive I sent an email asking if he had it in yet he replys 'sorry I dont have any order from you, i've sold all that shipment, you'll have to wait for the next lot'

so instead of a 1 month wait I have had a 2 month wait.

but I see they are bringing in a shopping cart system to they're website, that may solve a few issues.

like I said though, his prices are cheap, and they sell quality products.
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Post by GRPABT1 »

[quote="mrw82"]
i've just got some in from lowrange offroad, not too happy with the service he gives but his prices can't be beaten
quote]

www.locktup4x4.com.au

great service too.
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Post by 11_evl »

spzook wrote:Hey steve you said that it wasnt a 1L if it had no handbrake on it.
This is what mine looks like and i have been told it is a 1L.
Is this right? As this is all it came with.
how old are these cars now?? im sure at some stage of it life maybe someone descided to remove it for whateva reason??


not haveing a dig at anyome just being general
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Post by Gwagensteve »

It's been swapped at some stage.

ALL 1.0's have a handbrake on the case.

ALL 1.3 NT's have a handbrake on the case

The first 9 months of WT production have no handbrake on the case, but NT sized flanges

After then all WT's have large flanges and no handbrakes on the case.

It looks like Maruti's have no handbrake on the case and 1.0 gearing - you might have a maruti case.

It's isn't a 1.0 case that's had the drum taken off - that rear flange is unique to cars with no handbrake.

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yeah mauruti case

Post by wideaz »

yes it is a maruti sorry forgot to add that
SO I CAN GET S1 ROCKHOPPER TO FIT WITH OUT GRINDING THATS GREAT

S3 AND S4 WILL REQUIRE GRINDING SO BUGGER THAT
YEAH PS GOT SOLD SENDING OUT THIS WEEK
ANY ONE GOT 4.16 FOR SALE OR A CASE WITH THEM LOL
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Post by mrw82 »

i forgot to mention to put 4.16 (s1's) into a 1 litre case you need a 1.3 lowrange output gear. pretty easy to get a hold of if you know someone who already has crawler gears.
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Re: yeah mauruti case

Post by want33s »

wideaz wrote:...............
SO I CAN GET S1 ROCKHOPPER TO FIT WITH OUT GRINDING THATS GREAT

S3 AND S4 WILL REQUIRE GRINDING SO BUGGER THAT
..................
Grinding is the EASY part in fitting gears.
If you have a Dremel/ Die grinder/ Angle grinder/ power file you will do it in a few seconds.
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Re: yeah mauruti case

Post by Gwagensteve »

want33s wrote: Grinding is the EASY part in fitting gears.
X boggedybillion

grind the case a little... drop the gears in - no contact - reassemble.

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Post by GRPABT1 »

Just installed my 6.5's and I concur with above
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Post by Guy »

mrw82 wrote:i forgot to mention to put 4.16 (s1's) into a 1 litre case you need a 1.3 lowrange output gear. pretty easy to get a hold of if you know someone who already has crawler gears.
Most 4.16 kits these days will include all the gears you need.
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Post by mrw82 »

love_mud wrote:
mrw82 wrote:i forgot to mention to put 4.16 (s1's) into a 1 litre case you need a 1.3 lowrange output gear. pretty easy to get a hold of if you know someone who already has crawler gears.
Most 4.16 kits these days will include all the gears you need.
for a 1.3 case yes. but if going into a 1 litre case 4.16 gears need a 1.3 lowrange output gear which is not included. dont know if its required for other ratios.
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Post by crazynic »

mrw82 wrote:i forgot to mention to put 4.16 (s1's) into a 1 litre case you need a 1.3 lowrange output gear. pretty easy to get a hold of if you know someone who already has crawler gears.
Yeah this would seem correct as the gear sets are designed for the 1.3lt case and with the 1lt ratios being different it is just not going to work with the 1lt low range out put gear being a different tooth count....

The 4.16:1 gear sets include 3 gears and reuse the stock 1.3 low range output gear but when you fit the lower gear sets like the 6.5's do you get a new low range output gear??

I have just got a set of 4.16:1 gears from Low Range Off Road to fit to my late 84' 1lt case i have not pulled it down yet.....

I'm wondering if any has a stock 1.3lt low range output gear to complete my install?? Other wise i will have to source 1.3lt case!
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Post by Taff »

maybe someone will swap their 1.3 case for your sought after 1L case.

know any mates with zooks :)
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Post by crazynic »

Nah no mates with zooks round here :cry:

Any one want to swap a late 84' 1lt case for a NT 1.3lt case :D
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Post by Adsport »

mrw82 wrote:1 litre (with switch) and all 1.3 except coily transfers internal parts are interchangable. so all aftermarket gears available will fit your 1 litre case, grinding is only required when fitting equivelant to s3 and s4 ratios.

i've just got some in from lowrange offroad, not too happy with the service he gives but his prices can't be beaten
4.16:1 ratio gears $399.00
shipping $65.00
=$464.00US
bearings and seals purchased locally $120.00
gasket kit purchased locally $9.00

about $600 total to rebuild transfer with 4.16 gears.
would it be possible at all to get the part numbers for bearings and seals?

pretty please?
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Post by mrw82 »

Adsport wrote:
would it be possible at all to get the part numbers for bearings and seals?

pretty please?
since you asked so nicely :)

these are BSC part numbers but most places should be able to workout what you need.

62/28C3 ball bearing x3
63/22C3 ball bearing x1
6306NRC3 ball bearing x1
TC12545 oil seal x2
TC12539 oil seal x1 (this seal may be different if you have a case without the handbrake attached to it, I can confirm in a few weeks)

this doesn't include the needle roller bearings but the bearing shops should be able to supply them if you give them a sample.
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