bit of help needed now it wont start

[over land 4x4]

ok i stuffed a ring in my 1.3 so i got a 1lt ute that had a 1.3 put in it pulled my motor and box and im putting the motor and box from the ute in it but someone has cut off 2 of the 3 Wires that are on the box they cut the top and bottem ones do i need them ?? and what are they??
thanks
Aaron

[over land 4x4]

pic of my ute

[want33s]

Check the colours with the diagram but I think they are 4th & 5th gear EGR switches and a neutral switch.
Jas.

[Gwagensteve]

There's no EGR on 1.0's (afaik) , so the only switch on the 1.0 litre loom you can use is for reverse.

EGR is controlled on WT's by the little black box under the glovebox. NT's don't have the EGR swtches on the gearbox IIRC.

Steve.

[want33s]

I think you've missed something Steve... Go back and read the first post again.
Jas.

[over land 4x4]

thanks for that iv put the motor and box in and every thing is back on to the same place i took it off but now it wont start i dont think its getting any spark as it will crank but not fire what do you think iv done

[want33s]

Was it running in the other car????

If you have a test light or multi meter check for power at the coil.
If you have power then crank it and check for spark from the coil lead.
If you have spark from the coil lead check for spark at the plugs.
If you have spark at the plugs it probably isn't getting fuel.
Jas.

[over land 4x4]

thanks ill test it tomorrow after work as my battery is now dead

[Gwagensteve]

what am I missing Jas?

It's a 1.3 in a 1.0, no? So all the plugs on the 1.3 box won't have anywhere to go anyway??

Steve.

[over land 4x4]

ok no i took a 1.3 out of a 1.0 to put into my 1.3

[Gwagensteve]

Ahhhh sorry

Resume helpful tech... *runs away*

Steve.

[christover1]

The little earth wire behing the dizzy to firewall is easy to miss.
On a modded to fit a 1.o engine, don't assume wiring is correct color, ignition coil wires may be backwards..I'm rough I know

You should be able to buy the switches to refit to box if needed.
1 leans out fuel for 4th, another for 5th under certain conditions.
And 1 reverse light...some have a 4th wire that have have no idea on.

Don't assume everything on donor donk is in place or in place correctly.

I tried to start a motor with no rotor button once

[RockHopper]

Was it running in the other car????

If you have a test light or multi meter check for power at the coil.
If you have power then crank it and check for spark from the coil lead.
If you have spark from the coil lead check for spark at the plugs.
If you have spark at the plugs it probably isn't getting fuel.
Jas.

Jas is coorect but I'd probably do it in the reverse order. Check spark. If spark at the plug leads are ok, squirt a tiny bit of fuel down the carby. If it starts momentarily, you have a fuel supply problem. If it still doesn't start, it may possibly be flooded or there is a mechanical problem, eg timing belt out a couple of teeth.

[Spike_Sierra]

shouldnt the real question be....why are you not driving the ute!!!! No need to change engines then.

[over land 4x4]

ok nows its going well sort of its back fireing a lot i was thinking the fire order is Wrong ?? what should it be
and it wont drive i let the cluch out and not a thing maybe iv done ??
(it was all working befor i pulled it out)



Spike_Sierra id love to put the ute back on the road but dont have the money or time

also im some PM about the ute asking me how much do i want for it how much is it worth??

thanks for all the help
Aaron

[want33s]

ok nows its going well sort of its back fireing a lot i was thinking the fire order is Wrong ?? what should it be
and it wont drive i let the cluch out and not a thing maybe iv done ??
(it was all working befor i pulled it out)



Spike_Sierra id love to put the ute back on the road but dont have the money or time

also im some PM about the ute asking me how much do i want for it how much is it worth??

thanks for all the help
Aaron

Firing order is 1-3-4-2.
Clutch adjustment maybe OR is the transfer in neutral?
I would think an NT one litre, driveable car with no motor/box would be worth at least $1000.
Jas.

[over land 4x4]

i think i had the transfer in neutral

lookin at the dizzy cap it should be something like this


2 4

1 3

[want33s]

Transfer...
Looking across the drivers guard over the battery at the top of the dissy cap mine is.....
.......1........
2..............3
.......4........

clockwise rotation.
Jas.

[mick85]

Mine sounds like a pigeon whirr whirrrr

[over land 4x4]

Transfer...
Looking across the drivers guard over the battery at the top of the dissy cap mine is.....
.......1........
2..............3
.......4........

clockwise rotation.
Jas.

you the man love your work

[want33s]

I guess it is running now?
Glad to help.
Jas.

[over land 4x4]

its not running yet ill have a look at it tomrrow after work but i think it go as good as new

[over land 4x4]

its going thank god still got to do some small thing to do but its going to get me to work thank for the help and it work so much better when the tranfer isnt in neutral still needs a Clutch adjustment but ill do it on the weekend

thanks a heap for the help

[dull]

Good to hear the red beast will be alive again. Any takers on the ute?
Did you get in touch with that other bloke with the "thingo"??

[over land 4x4]

Good to hear the red beast will be alive again. Any takers on the ute?
Did you get in touch with that other bloke with the "thingo"??

umm the ''thingo'' do you mean the ''Nudge Nudge wink wink'' not yet but soon and ill let you know
and someone is going to make an offer on the ute tonight so ill see how that go's wish i could keep it its not going to need much work to get back on the street