locker problem

[wreckingball]

Hey guys just after some ideas on what could be wrong with my air locker .
The first time i locked it in it worked then the second time the compressor wouldn't shut off and the locker wasn't working . when i got home i tested it and it worked fine. I spoke to the shop that fitted it he had no ideas without looking at it. I've tested it a few times since without a problem, but finally tonight it did it again , as soon as i hit the locker switch the compressor would restart and the air was rushing straight out the diff breather. So obviously its got a leak but why is it intermittant ? and what is it ?

[v8zuki]

sounds like they have twisted or nicked the orings when they put it in very easy to do

[hudson44]

Or the copper piping has been crimped within the housing. Maybe hitting the crownwheel. If they just fit it then i would be taking it back.

[joeblow]

take it back to who fitted it.

[mule75]

i've had the small o ring in the brass air line fitting that's tapped into the diff housing stuff up with similar symptoms to what you're describing.

[Troopy93]

Get used to it, one of the pleasures of air lockers.

[wreckingball]

thanks guys i'll get it checked

[DIRTY ROCK STAR]

had a similar thing happen recently. but my diff breather was blocked.
end result... blew the axle seal and shot diff oil out the diff breather like a hose.
NASTY!

[chpd80]

Had the same problem with my rear air locker time and time again
Funny thing though the auto "lokka" in the front has never given any trouble hhmmm interesting.

[lockdup]

hey mate i had the exact same prob. its o ring, not been fitted well. take it back n let them deal with it.

[ajsr]

HMMM this tread could merge pretty easily with another on outers at the moment.Which locker should I buy???

[love ke70]

hahaha, what brand is the locker

[me3@neuralfibre.com]

Welcome to ARB Air Leakers

Been there, had that.

Paul

[waxen]

We had had similar problems to this and after a lot of head scratching the locker was removed, checked ,o rings replaced, checked again, refitted...........In short no problem could be found. But the intermittent problem was still there.
The locker was removed again, this time it was coaxed into misbehaving on the bench, by loosening the seal ring and realigning it, (this was because it had moved itself) every now and again after the centre was rotated it would leak. The journals etc were checked for runout, the seal ring was ok too, but a new seal ring was put in anyway, the id of the new ring was a couple of 'thou larger than the old one and so far it has not leaked again.
In summary the conclusion was that the combined sum of tolerance limits with that collection of parts was the problem. Anyway it may give you a starting point.
Cheers

[ajsr]

We had had similar problems to this and after a lot of head scratching the locker was removed, checked ,o rings replaced, checked again, refitted...........In short no problem could be found. But the intermittent problem was still there.
The locker was removed again, this time it was coaxed into misbehaving on the bench, by loosening the seal ring and realigning it, (this was because it had moved itself) every now and again after the centre was rotated it would leak. The journals etc were checked for runout, the seal ring was ok too, but a new seal ring was put in anyway, the id of the new ring was a couple of 'thou larger than the old one and so far it has not leaked again.
In summary the conclusion was that the combined sum of tolerance limits with that collection of parts was the problem. Anyway it may give you a starting point.
Cheers

What a variance in a QUALITY CNC MACHINED UNIT but 4X4 guy told us all that this is impossible! ARB ARE THE ONLY SHIT HE SAID
sounds like you all have been had . YOU ALL must have cheap chineese copies


Might keep my CNC machined lockright at least it works $199 us

[4x4 guy]

more CLUELESS comments from a CLUELESS internet nobody's.

if you set the seal housing up correctly in the first place it would not have leaked!

simple as that.

installation error but yet you come to the conclusion that the PRODUCT is at fault.

WRONG!!!

TRY TAKING YOUR DIFF TO SOMEONE THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
DON'T BLAME THE PRODUCT.



AJSR- you clueless wannabe,you keep that piece of shit lockright and bang it fair up your ass.

[ajsr]

OUCH 4X4 guy that hurt

the truth always seems to get that reaction

[me3@neuralfibre.com]

We had had similar problems to this and after a lot of head scratching the locker was removed, checked ,o rings replaced, checked again, refitted...........In short no problem could be found. But the intermittent problem was still there.
The locker was removed again, this time it was coaxed into misbehaving on the bench, by loosening the seal ring and realigning it, (this was because it had moved itself) every now and again after the centre was rotated it would leak. The journals etc were checked for runout, the seal ring was ok too, but a new seal ring was put in anyway, the id of the new ring was a couple of 'thou larger than the old one and so far it has not leaked again.
In summary the conclusion was that the combined sum of tolerance limits with that collection of parts was the problem. Anyway it may give you a starting point.
Cheers

What a variance in a QUALITY CNC MACHINED UNIT but 4X4 guy told us all that this is impossible! ARB ARE THE ONLY SHIT HE SAID
sounds like you all have been had . YOU ALL must have cheap chineese copies


Might keep my CNC machined lockright at least it works $199 us

Go the Lockrite - miss mine - better than my current Air Leaker



Paul

[waxen]

more CLUELESS comments from a CLUELESS internet nobody's.

if you set the seal housing up correctly in the first place it would not have leaked!

simple as that.

installation error but yet you come to the conclusion that the PRODUCT is at fault.

WRONG!!!

TRY TAKING YOUR DIFF TO SOMEONE THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
DON'T BLAME THE PRODUCT.



AJSR- you clueless wannabe,you keep that piece of shit lockright and bang it fair up your ass.

You're such a funny man

[turps]

more CLUELESS comments from a CLUELESS internet nobody's.

if you set the seal housing up correctly in the first place it would not have leaked!

simple as that.

installation error but yet you come to the conclusion that the PRODUCT is at fault.

WRONG!!!

TRY TAKING YOUR DIFF TO SOMEONE THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
DON'T BLAME THE PRODUCT.



AJSR- you clueless wannabe,you keep that piece of shit lockright and bang it fair up your ass.

And another wanker who has been here 5mins and being an asshat.

[jessie928]

more CLUELESS comments from a CLUELESS internet nobody's.

if you set the seal housing up correctly in the first place it would not have leaked!

simple as that.

installation error but yet you come to the conclusion that the PRODUCT is at fault.

WRONG!!!

TRY TAKING YOUR DIFF TO SOMEONE THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
DON'T BLAME THE PRODUCT.



AJSR- you clueless wannabe,you keep that piece of shit lockright and bang it fair up your ass.

And another wanker who has been here 5mins and being an asshat.

i second that notion.

[ajsr]

*

[4x4 guy]

WHAT PART OF THE TRUTH DON'T YOU CLUELESS WANNABE BACKYARD MECHANIC'S LIKE?

TAKE YOUR DIFF TO A REPUTABLE 4X4 STORE WHO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND STOP BLAMING THE PRODUCT.

INSTALLION ERROR CAUSED THIS PROBLEM.

YOU GUYS ARE FUCIN CLUELESS.

[simkell]

The main problem with air lockers is the person installing them. have installed a few with no problems. being lazy when assembling a diff can lead to all sorts of problems. the only problem with air lockers is the seals, but if installed correctly they will still last for years.

with out th correct tools and the knowledge to use them will always end in disaster.

As for bagging out members that have been on the site for a long time and with decent sound mechanical knowledge, well pull your heads in.

[dumbdunce]

since I've only been a member here a short while and obviously don't know anything about diffs, my opinion on this isn't worth a pinch of bat poo.

(have a search, I'm sure I've said it all and more on air locker installation over the years.)

If air lockers leak on activation, you have an installation problem. Air lockers I installed over 150,000km ago are still going strong.

things that might happen that probably shouldn't but you can live with:

1. if you don't have an air tank in your system, the slow pressure build up can allow air to bypass the o-rings or the internal u-ring and the locker may not engage. rare but it happens. the air locker system is designed to seat 80 - 120psi, not 5psi.

2. In front diffs with locking hubs, if the diff has not rotated and the o-rings or u-ring are dry on the top half out of the oil, some air can bypass. a short drive with the hubs locked will circulate oil and rectify.


4x4 guy is right, even if his messages could be slightly more tactful. The air locker is a finely engineered bit of kit, it deserves careful installation. The instructions are comprehensive and easy to follow, it's not hard to get right even for a backyard mechanic who is careful and can follow instructions.

[trains]

WHAT PART OF THE TRUTH DON'T YOU CLUELESS WANNABE BACKYARD MECHANIC'S LIKE?

TAKE YOUR DIFF TO A REPUTABLE 4X4 STORE WHO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND STOP BLAMING THE PRODUCT.

INSTALLION ERROR CAUSED THIS PROBLEM.

YOU GUYS ARE FUCIN CLUELESS.

This guy sounds like he went to the same school of customer care that arb use.


T

[4x4 guy]

DUMBDUNCE KNOWS.....
SIMKELL KNOWS.....

at least there are a few people on this forum that know the TRUTH despite what others say.

i see and repair quite a few diffs that were installed by people that think they know what they are doing,and despite have VERY comprehensive instructions they still manage to make simple mistakes which lead to problems.

and they all say the same thing-they blame the product,never themselves.

being tactful is not something i am good at.

especially when dealing with people on forums.

[jessie928]

DUMBDUNCE KNOWS.....
SIMKELL KNOWS.....

at least there are a few people on this forum that know the TRUTH despite what others say.

i see and repair quite a few diffs that were installed by people that think they know what they are doing,and despite have VERY comprehensive instructions they still manage to make simple mistakes which lead to problems.

and they all say the same thing-they blame the product,never themselves.

being tactful is not something i am good at.

especially when dealing with people on forums.

mate let us know your business name so we can all stay well clear of it.
your acting like a 2 year old that has just been told there is no santa.

JEs

[bogged]

more CLUELESS comments from a CLUELESS internet nobody's.

if you set the seal housing up correctly in the first place it would not have leaked!

simple as that.

installation error but yet you come to the conclusion that the PRODUCT is at fault.

WRONG!!!

TRY TAKING YOUR DIFF TO SOMEONE THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
DON'T BLAME THE PRODUCT.



AJSR- you clueless wannabe,you keep that piece of shit lockright and bang it fair up your ass.

And another wanker who has been here 5mins and being an asshat.

I wonder if he fits gearboxes and is from SE MElbourne.

[ajsr]

I belive he's in the buisness of installing lockrights into peoples backsides

By the way 4x4 guy Im not sure you got the shimming right on my lockright install