finding a jtop gearbox?? big prob in sydney plz help

[jonnyjtop]

hi guys im a long time reader and have got alot of info off here until now im stumped!

i have a 92 model pajero j-top 3l v6 i had a problem changing into 2nd gear so i pulled out the box and trsf case ect in order to find a replacement used box as i thought it would be the easiest thing to do as there are alot of aussie models with the same engine ect...i found one complete with transfer case ect from a wrecker that said he had a few around (i wanted to change the whole lot) and sent my brother to pick it up. the guy at the wreckers said that he did not have the correct one to fit one a full metal gearbox/trsf case and most of the others have metal and trsf case alloy or something like that also i asked him if i could use the new gearbox part (whch was metal) and my existing trsf case he said it would not work together for some reason..so they left empty handed..so i just decided to find someone to rebuild it but before i got the chance to do my mate was unloading it from his ute i asked him to hold it up for a sec and he dropped it on the floor cracking the bell housing.. if worst comes to worst ill look at welding it back up

so i guess my question is where in sydney or what model do i have to ask for when i ring around to find one??

[bakerboy]

bugger mate, went from a simple syncro change (i think thats what ur intial prob would have been) to sourcing a new box, hmmm take it to a gear box place, get them to check it out for ya

[jonnyjtop]

yeah def a synchro problem but iv dealt with stuff like this before on other cars and we all know that its just a synchro but then they start saying you also need to change this and that as well they might as well take my left arm too sometimes! so i thought getting a replacement would be the easiest and cheapest option as i found a wrecker that was willing to sell me a box and trsf for 500 with 3 mnth warranty...i will keep searching but i think knowing exactly what im looking for will make it a tad bit easier.

[NJV6]

Has your JTop got super select?

All the ones I have do, so that means the gearbox is the same as any other 1992 V6 Pajero.

[WACKO]

i have a 93jtop jap import 3ltr v6. my transfur got tired, so i got a complete box and transfur from a diesel. the box had a differant input shaft and bellhousing, but the transfur was the same. when i was looking i was told the boxs are differant between diesel and petrol, but the transfurs are the interchangeable, unless on an auto.

if i were you id just try find a complete box/transfur from a 3ltr v6. i cant see there being any differance, and if there was id say it will mainly be down to the ratios as teh jtops came out on 18"rims.

Sam

[jonnyjtop]

well i dunno hat the wrecker was on about then! he was confident he had one to match also.. (he had numerous ones in stock)

i was very confident theid be the same also but they bought my box with them to the wreckers and he said it was different

njv6 yea it has super select i have seen your post on your ute your building and see you have alot of pajeros around do you think you could have a doubble check for me and see if thier the same..

also if this is the case im guessing that even a lwb 93 3l v6 model will have the same box and transfer...? i might just buy a junker with a good box even..

thanks for the replys guys..

[WACKO]

lwb should be the same, will just have a longer rear driveshaft. i just checked my chassis plate, transaxle code is v5mt1 so i would assume any paj with that transaxle code will have the same box.

good luck.

Sam

[spanky]

my nj swb 3l has v5mt1 box aswell so same as jtop,
vaughan

[jonnyjtop]

ok guys good that is the exact same numbers as what mine says... i rung another wrecker today he said he has got one i cn have for 850 is that around about ahat their worth??

the first wrecker might have been a bit embarassed as i called him twice to doubble check that he had the right one and maybe made up a story!

thanks alot guys i thought it would be a bigger headache than that!!

[jonnyjtop]

also i just read another article on the transmission v5mt1 is apparently there is another one with the code v5mt1-3 is this the same unit apparntly it has a doubble coned synchro from 1st to 2nd instead of apparently paper lined synchro...would this be a stronger unit if i could find one? and would it fit

[Raurrie]

Take it to Bears Gear and Diff out near St Mary's. He reconditioned my box for $650.00 and was by far the cheapest in Sydney - this was over 8 months ago and box is still fine. Other places were quoting $1200 plus.

[WACKO]

also i just read another article on the transmission v5mt1 is apparently there is another one with the code v5mt1-3 is this the same unit apparntly it has a doubble coned synchro from 1st to 2nd instead of apparently paper lined synchro...would this be a stronger unit if i could find one? and would it fit

if you can find one, grab it. stil a v5mt1, id say the 3 is just in relation to the double synchro. but im just guessing.

raurrie's idea of the rebuild sounds like a goer to me tho. esp if its cheaper than a 2nd hand box. might pay to check exactly what their rebuild entails tho.

[jonnyjtop]

yeah id probably preffer just changing the whole lot as i said my mate also dropped it and shattered the bell housing and now welding ect will set me back a bit more ill probably go the 850 one and haggle him a bit as i also want a bullbar and a few other bits and pieces that he has got and might beable to do a deal...also ill still have the transfer case still in good nick that i can keep as a spare or flog for a couple hundred or something...

btw wacko...you are wacko! your j-top was one of the ones that i first saw when i started googleing j-top lift ect it looks mad.. i dont think ill be going that insane when lifting/modifying mine (which i will be doing now when the box is out) but ill try...

[WACKO]

HAA!! when i got mine i had no intention of moding it as much as its ended up. wanted to keep it road legal.it was just a little mod here, a little mod there. then wasnt driving it on the road apart from getting to trips etc. now i havent driven it in 18mths or so. but the snow is melting so no more boarding. i will have to get back into it i spose, getting low on excuses now... hahha.

if you want to lift yours but arnt planing on going above 33s, i wouldnt do a bodylift. just do the springs in the rear and balljoint flip. i had to massage my guards at the rear of the arch ever so slightly, but you couldnt tell unless you looked inside the arch. keep the centre of gravity low for stability.

i forgot you had broken your bellhousing. can you not find a box on ebay? over here id hate to pay more than 3-400 from a wrecker for a box/transfur unit. $850 seems steep to me. but we may have more jap import wrecks over here.. spare parts are always good.

[jonnyjtop]

ebay only has reconditiond ones that fetch a few bucks about 1200 without trsfer case...yeah things are much better priced over there unfortunately too many greedy ppl in sydney hey i wouldent even be doing the box if my bastard mecchanic wouldent have used a 2nd hand bearing in the clutch causing it to seize up in the middle of the bush then i drove home with it (sometimes i get fed up and cause more damage with things)

yeah i have played around with torsion bar crank a bit but i wanted it level at the moment and still not sure on how much more the bolts can go as im not sure if someone has played with them before (may need re-indexing wich im not sure exactly how to do still even after reading faq) me as it seems a bit higher than most other pajeros iv seen(unmodified) ill be getting on 33" muddies soon as im up for tires anyway..also be adding a front bull bar as my one is still in the bush when i ripped them off!

i kinda wanted a body lift prob just for the look factor but if it will make it more unstable i wont do it..seems to have a bit more body roll than usual for a paj..

will gefinately get springs for the rear apparently lwb will raise it a bit or patrol or would i be better off with aftermarket springs? then adjust tortion bars to match..

btw when i say raise it a bit i mean as much as possible!