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E10 Fuel

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E10 Fuel

Post by nellyb1 »

Just a quick question for those that may know.

My mav is having a shit of a time running at the moment.
I thru in some E10 fuel as that was the only pump running out past singleton on thrusday night.
And since then the car has been running like shit. No power, wont start right, backfires, missing, stalling.

I'm just wondering if anybody else has had this issues using E10 fuel.

I'm not sure it may just be a coincedence, but i took it in for a wheel aligment at Jax in newcastle. The guy at the counter said that they coudltn get it to start, but they didnt touch anything, so the boys there had a look, but they didnt change anything.

It just seems like a pretty big coincedence that it was running fine, yeh it doesnt start right, the choke is stuffed. But it was running great. And now it not.
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Re: E10 Fuel

Post by bogged »

drain it, change filters, and try again
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Post by PGS 4WD »

Ethanol is highly corrosive and can strip the lining from petrol tanks, lines, injectors and so on. Bogged is right, throw away the filter, there is a fair chance it will be blocked with sediment released from the tank. The Government has decided that 10% Ethanol is an acceptable amount. It is a good fuel where the fuel system has been designed to cope with the corrosive nature of the fuel.

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Post by MyGQ »

Yeha E10 i am sorry is terrible fuel

I had a 1L 3cyl Charade not long ago (don't laugh) and a full 30L of E10 got me 356K's. Filled up with a full tank of RON91 (standard Unleaded) 425K's to the tank.

it lacked some serious power that was for sure, however, the Boost 98 from United servo's was the only petrol that stopped my Dual fuel Mav that was highly tuned for gas (15deg advance and so on) from pinging up hills and gave it more power, even more than the so called Vortex 98 or BP Ultimate,

Best idea is to stay away from E10 (shell, mobil, Caltex) and go normal 91 unleaded
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Post by nellyb1 »

thanks for the help lads,

Looks i like i know what i'm doing on the weekend then hey.
Dam it all. Theres most likely about 50lts in there.
Maybe i can sell it to the pocket rocket housemate. hers cars a rust expo anyway.

Thanks again people
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Post by nellyb1 »

http://www.fcai.com.au/publications/all ... end-petrol

there it is people.

Ford, Maverick.
denined.

Nissan Patrols
pre 2004
Denined

Post 2004
Ding Ding.

I wonder how much damage i've done. The problems that the car is showing are exactly what is written there.
Lack of power,
Irregular running.
Missing
Not starting.

Again, thanks for the help people. Never would have konw otherwise.
Might be best to passs this info around. There may eb other people out there that dont know either.
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Post by MyGQ »

drain it out and use some 96 or 98 petrol to clean it all out, make sure you clean out the filter too when you drain it.
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Post by j-top paj »

e10 seems to be getting more and more common these days..
its harder to find fuel without it in it.

my local BP switched to "up to 10% renewable ethanol" in their regular fuel a short while ago. and what makes it worse is that its still only 91RON

whereas when i was on hollidays last year, the united (i think) had their ethanol fuel at 95 or 98RON and we used it for a few thousand Ks and noticed a bit more power up hills and got extra Ks to a tank
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Post by nellyb1 »

yeh a few more octance in the mix can really boost a cars preformance. use to run it in all by roadbikes.

I had the old man drain some fuel from my 900 one day and throw it in the lawnmower, I was mucking around with optimax fuel with an octance boost mixed in. He said the thing sounded like it was ready to take off.

I had a mate that was over in vietnam with the RAAF.
He worked with the ground crews filling up the planes.
He said that the locals kept jumping fences and stealing their normal fuel in 44's

so they pumped a heap of the high grade av-gas into the normal fuel 44's and left them were they would go missing easiler.

Said the next morning there were a heap of mopeds and tractors and rickshaw things, lining the road with blown engines.

I'm sure youd be pissed at it all, but it would be quite a rush to be on a moped powered on av-gas before it goes pop.
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Post by bogged »

nellyb1 wrote:yeh a few more octance in the mix can really boost a cars preformance. use to run it in all by roadbikes.

I had the old man drain some fuel from my 900 one day and throw it in the lawnmower, I was mucking around with optimax fuel with an octance boost mixed in. He said the thing sounded like it was ready to take off.

I had a mate that was over in vietnam with the RAAF.
He worked with the ground crews filling up the planes.
He said that the locals kept jumping fences and stealing their normal fuel in 44's

so they pumped a heap of the high grade av-gas into the normal fuel 44's and left them were they would go missing easiler.

Said the next morning there were a heap of mopeds and tractors and rickshaw things, lining the road with blown engines.

I'm sure youd be pissed at it all, but it would be quite a rush to be on a moped powered on av-gas before it goes pop.
I ran the Avgas you get from Bankstown airport in the racebike, didnt notice shit difference.. maybe it wasnt what it said it was.... :(
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Post by nastytroll »

If you run any ethanol blended fuel in a suzuki bike it will void your warrenty.

Ethanol is more pron to detonation also and causes higher burn temps.

A mate ran E10 in his injected GQ tb42 and it melted the tail light out of the bumber. I ran E10 in my GQ carb TB42 and the radiant heat melted my shock boots.

I ran some ethanol blended ,95 or 98 ron, shit that was not marked on the bouser in my kwaka ZX11 and it back fires, gets real hot and idles higher by around 300rpm. When I asked in the servo the bloke behind the counter said all fuel has ethanol in it now.
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Post by cooki_monsta »

i ran av gas in an old race bike, if its tuned properly it should fly bogged, just be weary it fouls plugs like theres no tomorow! oh and as far as e10 fuel goes, its shit :D
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Post by nastytroll »

cooki_monsta wrote:i ran av gas in an old race bike, if its tuned properly it should fly bogged, just be weary it fouls plugs like theres no tomorow! oh and as far as e10 fuel goes, its shit :D
Avgas and higher octane ethenol fuels are different. Dad used to run tolulene and benzene blended race fuels, but if put in a standard type motor can cause serious/terminal problems.

If the enine is built to suit, ethanol is an acceptable fuel.
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