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Post by g35me »

Does anyone know where I can find a set of 2.5ton Rockwell diff/axles?
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your local truch wreckers expect to pay $$$$ they are very exy over here but cheap as chips in the us
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I dont think a local truck wrecker is going to have ex US military axles from 50 years ago? Any other ideas.
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Post by Gwagensteve »

Really? W&P have had quite a few 2.5 tonne trucks (that run these axles) though their yard, so they're around.

The biggest disadvantage I can see with them is crap steering lock. The Ragged Edge cars run rockwell knuckles and outers and they have terrible lock - they really need 4WS.

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Post by moose »

um..... ragged edge trucks DO HAVE 4WS !!!! :D
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Exactly moose - they really need it.

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Ring Pete from OPW he may have some or Know where there are a set
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g35me wrote:I dont think a local truck wrecker is going to have ex US military axles from 50 years ago? Any other ideas.
there is quite a few variations of these diffs mate
i looked at a set for a while but were to exy for me
alot of wreckers will call them mini scamel diffs ;)
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Gwagensteve wrote:Exactly moose - they really need it.

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cooter wrote:
g35me wrote:I dont think a local truck wrecker is going to have ex US military axles from 50 years ago? Any other ideas.
there is quite a few variations of these diffs mate
i looked at a set for a while but were to exy for me
alot of wreckers will call them mini scamel diffs ;)
Thats right, rockwell made many axles but I was suspecting that everyone would realise that I wanted the military type and not a semi-trailer type. Thanks for the scamel name that may help when searching. Pitty they are so damn heavy as they are around $800 - $1300us transport would be a killer.
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taps wrote:Ring Pete from OPW he may have some or Know where there are a set
huh, I forgot about Pete. If anyone would know it would be him.
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cooter wrote:
g35me wrote:I dont think a local truck wrecker is going to have ex US military axles from 50 years ago? Any other ideas.
there is quite a few variations of these diffs mate
i looked at a set for a while but were to exy for me
alot of wreckers will call them mini scamel diffs ;)
i was referring to the fact that there are a lot of variations of the 2.5 tonne diffs they were used in civilian vehicles also ;)
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Post by nottie »

The ones in question i would assume are the type you see on a huge variety of Rigs on pirate??

They do require a pinion brake. Unless you have heaps of cash or a damn good fabricator.
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the ones i was looking at were from an old gmc truck
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nottie wrote:The ones in question i would assume are the type you see on a huge variety of Rigs on pirate??

They do require a pinion brake. Unless you have heaps of cash or a damn good fabricator.
100% correct. They came on the M35 troop carrier/transport truck that was used by the US military all over the world for about 50 years. There are mountain loads of them in the US but virtually none here. They use pinion brakes because they are cheap and you can buy them out of the box with all associated fittings provided. Beats crappy drums.
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Post by Tazz »

Gwagensteve wrote:Really? W&P have had quite a few 2.5 tonne trucks (that run these axles) though their yard, so they're around.

The biggest disadvantage I can see with them is crap steering lock. The Ragged Edge cars run rockwell knuckles and outers and they have terrible lock - they really need 4WS.

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They probably arent being used to the full steer lock any way - I think the locks been limited to keep the 44's clear of the links.
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g35me wrote:
taps wrote:Ring Pete from OPW he may have some or Know where there are a set
huh, I forgot about Pete. If anyone would know it would be him.
Yeh give Pete a call, i'm sure he imported a pair not long ago for a customer, so should be able to help.
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Tazz wrote:
They probably arent being used to the full steer lock any way - I think the locks been limited to keep the 44's clear of the links.
I don't think so, and I've heard the poor lock thing from a few sources.

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Tazz wrote:
g35me wrote:
taps wrote:Ring Pete from OPW he may have some or Know where there are a set
huh, I forgot about Pete. If anyone would know it would be him.
Yeh give Pete a call, i'm sure he imported a pair not long ago for a customer, so should be able to help.
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Post by 1MadEngineer »

nottie wrote:The ones in question i would assume are the type you see on a huge variety of Rigs on pirate??

They do require a pinion brake. Unless you have heaps of cash or a damn good fabricator.
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Post by Tazz »

g35me wrote:
Tazz wrote:
g35me wrote:
taps wrote:Ring Pete from OPW he may have some or Know where there are a set
huh, I forgot about Pete. If anyone would know it would be him.
Yeh give Pete a call, i'm sure he imported a pair not long ago for a customer, so should be able to help.
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Should have mentioned that he's in the US @ the moment so he may not get ya message till he returns.
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Post by nottie »

1MadEngineer wrote:
nottie wrote:The ones in question i would assume are the type you see on a huge variety of Rigs on pirate??

They do require a pinion brake. Unless you have heaps of cash or a damn good fabricator.
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Edit: Note the above price is for each side. Still good value though i think.
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Post by g35me »

Definately a good price but unsure of the little Wilwood calipers. Would have thought they would use something bigger. Good for a pinion brake with gear reduction but unsure of suitability at the wheels.
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Post by 1MadEngineer »

g35me wrote:Definately a good price but unsure of the little Wilwood calipers. Would have thought they would use something bigger. Good for a pinion brake with gear reduction but unsure of suitability at the wheels.
WHY would they not be OK? they are DANA 8 lug disks and 4spot calipers! there is no magical flywheel attached....
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Post by nottie »

If you look on the link posted by Greg then you would also see that they do a new 6 piston caliper that they have designed and built themselves.
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nottie wrote:If you look on the link posted by Greg then you would also see that they do a new 6 piston caliper that they have designed and built themselves.
hmmmmm. :cool: :cool: :cool:

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mmmmmmmm 47spline 2" diameter axles :lol:
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1MadEngineer wrote:
g35me wrote:Definately a good price but unsure of the little Wilwood calipers. Would have thought they would use something bigger. Good for a pinion brake with gear reduction but unsure of suitability at the wheels.
WHY would they not be OK? they are DANA 8 lug disks and 4spot calipers! there is no magical flywheel attached....
I guess they didnt like them either. Quoted from their website, their new calipers are "TRULY A STEP UP FROM THE WILWOOD SETUP THAT WE WERE USING".
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