hi guys,
The brake shoe retainer springs, adjuster and other misc parts associated with my drum brakes need replacing on my 1984 BJ42. THe rear drum has a single brake cylinder on the rear.
Can anyone advise where I can source a replacement spring kit?
do the 60's have the same drum brakes as mine? so I can try and source a kit for that instead of the BJ42? I've tried Checkpoint and sunshine state 4wd and i'm about to try toyota now..
worse case I'll have to get it from a wreck but would prefer not to.
cheers.
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Hey Andy, assume you havent got the drum off yet.
When you get it off you'll have a better idea of what you need. The dud adjuster (52) is the root of your problems. As it is seized, you cant back it off to get the drum off and its likely your drum has a wear lip making it even harder to get it past the shoes. As you wind the drum off using 2 bolts in the threaded holes, the drum is pulling the shoes way from the backing plate and putting alot of pressure on the hold-down cups (48). This will eventually tear the thin section of steel on the cup that holds it onto the pin (17), causing the springs (18) to rattle free.
So having said that I dont think you're ging to need new springs, just a couple of new cups. If the cups on the inside of the spring (sit against the shoe) are any good you can just swap them around and use the worn ones there as they only seat the spring.
You can usually clean out and lubricate the adjuster with an anti-seize and call it done but if its really stuffed then you should be able to get one from Toyota, possibly aftermarket. Not sure if its the same as 60 though, quite likely.
Pretty sure Repco sell those hold-down cups if you need some but not the springs or the adjuster.
When you get it off you'll have a better idea of what you need. The dud adjuster (52) is the root of your problems. As it is seized, you cant back it off to get the drum off and its likely your drum has a wear lip making it even harder to get it past the shoes. As you wind the drum off using 2 bolts in the threaded holes, the drum is pulling the shoes way from the backing plate and putting alot of pressure on the hold-down cups (48). This will eventually tear the thin section of steel on the cup that holds it onto the pin (17), causing the springs (18) to rattle free.
So having said that I dont think you're ging to need new springs, just a couple of new cups. If the cups on the inside of the spring (sit against the shoe) are any good you can just swap them around and use the worn ones there as they only seat the spring.
You can usually clean out and lubricate the adjuster with an anti-seize and call it done but if its really stuffed then you should be able to get one from Toyota, possibly aftermarket. Not sure if its the same as 60 though, quite likely.
Pretty sure Repco sell those hold-down cups if you need some but not the springs or the adjuster.
Thanks Ray,
I had a chat to sunshine state 4wd and toyota and they do the parts but seperately.. also the wreckers could help sourcing the parts.. but only 2nd hand used parts. I 'll try repco for the new cups..
currently I have parts 17(*2) and 48(*4) out (fell out when I tried to get to the brakes on sunday night) and the rest is just floating around. I have had the adjuster off when I replaced the rear brake pads ages ago and gave it a clean up but I think it's had it now.
I might try and source as many parts as I can and give it to a brake place to do. I assume they'll be able to do some work on the drum if a lip has been created due to wear? I had so much trouble trying to get it off and would rather pay for it to be someone elses problem.
I had a chat to sunshine state 4wd and toyota and they do the parts but seperately.. also the wreckers could help sourcing the parts.. but only 2nd hand used parts. I 'll try repco for the new cups..
currently I have parts 17(*2) and 48(*4) out (fell out when I tried to get to the brakes on sunday night) and the rest is just floating around. I have had the adjuster off when I replaced the rear brake pads ages ago and gave it a clean up but I think it's had it now.
I might try and source as many parts as I can and give it to a brake place to do. I assume they'll be able to do some work on the drum if a lip has been created due to wear? I had so much trouble trying to get it off and would rather pay for it to be someone elses problem.
Resident Terrorist
Yeah if the drum is within tolerance it can be machined to remove the lip.
Part number on the cup is 072-014739, order ahead as it will probably have to come from their central warehouse at the Airport, woudn't be a common part at alot of stores. They are a couple of bucks each so you might want to get some spares.
Part number on the cup is 072-014739, order ahead as it will probably have to come from their central warehouse at the Airport, woudn't be a common part at alot of stores. They are a couple of bucks each so you might want to get some spares.
andy i thought terrain tamer/sunstate 4wd/don kyatt (whoever they are!) have a spring kit and/or individual springs listed on their parts catalogue under 60 series (I think your would be the same - Rays pic is my 60 series brakes)
hope that helps
hope that helps
even when you spell out commonsense to the RTA they still ignore it!
shorty forty, try NQ 4x4 and crash up here in Cairns, ask for Wayne. (he will probably know all the part numbers off the top of his head) I am sure he will be able to supply you with a kit that has all the parts in it you need, rather than getting them separate. I am sure he will be able to organize freight also.
NQ 4x4 and crash Ph is 07 40308400
(I dont have any association with them other than using them to get my parts, as they are quick, reliable, and very knowledgable)
NQ 4x4 and crash Ph is 07 40308400
(I dont have any association with them other than using them to get my parts, as they are quick, reliable, and very knowledgable)
My 60 series rebuild....
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic103004.php&highlight=
http://www.flyology.com
2006 CRV Sport (wifes car)
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic103004.php&highlight=
http://www.flyology.com
2006 CRV Sport (wifes car)
Cheers for that.. got some parts locally which I can pick up tomorrow so that should be cool.. I'll keep it in mind for next time I need something though..flyology wrote:shorty forty, try NQ 4x4 and crash up here in Cairns, ask for Wayne. (he will probably know all the part numbers off the top of his head) I am sure he will be able to supply you with a kit that has all the parts in it you need, rather than getting them separate. I am sure he will be able to organize freight also.
NQ 4x4 and crash Ph is 07 40308400
(I dont have any association with them other than using them to get my parts, as they are quick, reliable, and very knowledgable)
Thanks!
will find out later today.ANyone know where I can find the part # 50 in the diagram? I've busted one of mine and need to track down a replacement.. I'll check out don Kyatts website now and see if its listed..
I'm assuming it would be this part: Wire H/brake Rear R/h & L/h - Part #:47616-60010
Confirming with Don Kyatt's now and it looks like its the right part.. except there doesnt appear to be any in the country.. hmm!
I'm assuming it would be this part: Wire H/brake Rear R/h & L/h - Part #:47616-60010
Confirming with Don Kyatt's now and it looks like its the right part.. except there doesnt appear to be any in the country.. hmm!
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