Laminova Cored Intercoolers (Home Brew 2. GQ TD 42 )

Post by **awill4x4** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:44 am

How about a 1000 bhp supercharged BMW running a 10 core Laminova setup, and running mid 9 second quarters Yikes!!!!
Regards Andrew.

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:56 am

I think our latest 12 core single pass for the LS1 Twin Turbo will whooop it's 10 core double pass ass

Your welding is better too

Post by **benhl** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:29 am

This is getting beyond a joke now...... but still somewhat sexier all the time

Post by **lewie** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:50 am

Owning a GQ RD28T and reading up on other people struggling to keep temps down to prevent the old 2.8 head cracking, and also struggling to plumb any sort of intercooler between the tbo outlet and manifold inlet being directly above. This type of cooler would be ideal for the 2.8 and only having a few inches of pipe between turbo and manifold it would work extremely well and efficiently IMO.

Have you fellas looked into the 2.8s at all??

any help appreciated

lewie

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:05 pm

lewie wrote:Owning a GQ RD28T and reading up on other people struggling to keep temps down to prevent the old 2.8 head cracking, and also struggling to plumb any sort of intercooler between the tbo outlet and manifold inlet being directly above. This type of cooler would be ideal for the 2.8 and only having a few inches of pipe between turbo and manifold it would work extremely well and efficiently IMO.

Have you fellas looked into the 2.8s at all??

any help appreciated

lewie

I had a good look at a 2.8 at Dzltec's the other day plenty of room. The intake plenum if I recall is quite large.
I can't see any issues with fitting one of our intercoolers in.
Short intake paths lead to excellent response times.

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:07 pm

benhl wrote:This is getting beyond a joke now...... but still somewhat sexier all the time

Way beyond a joke and almost at an ABN

Post by **lewie** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:41 pm

yeah i hope you do 1 for the 2.8 as i think it would be simple and very effective, and an item being chased by many 2.8 owners

Post by **brad-chevlux** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:56 pm

are you guys leaning towards any prices for the generic coolers?

Post by **Dzltec** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:18 pm

Don't forget that a radiator and fan also has to fit somewhere. Thats where it can get a little creative in making it all fit. Once that is sorted, the sky is the limit.

Ice tanks, dry ice, refrigerent going through it, nos, you will see sub zero intake temps easily out of these.

Love the bmw motor.

Good luck Matt.

Andy

Post by **love ke70** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:37 pm

what happens when you freeze the water though

you can get sub zero with an ice box around an air to air, its finding something that will keep good temps, ie, as close to ambient as possible.
cant wait to see how the BMW goes with getting heat out of the water

Post by **RED60** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:52 pm

love ke70 wrote:what happens when you freeze the water though

you can get sub zero with an ice box around an air to air, its finding something that will keep good temps, ie, as close to ambient as possible.
cant wait to see how the BMW goes with getting heat out of the water

I would have thought the lower you can get the coolant temp without freezing the better. The bigger the difference in boosted intake air and the coolant medium the more heat gets taken out of the air = more kw/torque... tho this may only be attainable, in the real driving world, for a relatively short time because the coolant for the coolant is ambient air..

go the bmw....

Post by **love ke70** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:05 pm

exactly, whatever you do you are not gonna keep the water cold for long, which is why im interested to see how this goes in the BMW, might end up putting it into my race car, but im not convinced i can keep it cool for 20 or 30 laps.
we shall see...maybe

i guess if it ends up arse i can just put it on my ute

Post by **RED60** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:25 pm

love ke70 wrote:exactly, whatever you do you are not gonna keep the water cold for long, which is why im interested to see how this goes in the BMW, might end up putting it into my race car, but im not convinced i can keep it cool for 20 or 30 laps.
we shall see...maybe

i guess if it ends up arse i can just put it on my ute

If it gives you 5% more power for the first 5 laps your laughin', you'll be a lap ahead by then.... it's all good from there...

Post by **love ke70** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:28 pm

not if i start boiling water, which standard water to airs seem to do very impressively on track days. much better than when an engine boils over from all reports.
and those cores arnt efficient, imagine the amount of heat going into the water in one of these very efficient designs.

but that said, most water to air coolers have very undersized radiators, so a big rad with clean flow should work...maybe

Post by **bogged** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:29 pm

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=umoY7DgvRTQ
add one to this - 1000HP GU

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:51 am

bogged wrote:http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=umoY7DgvRTQ
add one to this - 1000HP GU

It would go faster with one of our intercoolers

Post by **marin** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:23 am

matt.mcinnes wrote:Marin's splitters are in along with a few extra. Along with 4 dash 8 straight fittings.

SNIP

*opens wallet again to pay for some more fantastic engineering*

Should be interesting to see what we can come up with for a radiator for it when I'm home for christmas and we put it all together..... I think we shall be getting the grinder out again lol if only for the grill.

marin

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:18 pm

The 10 core BMW

http://www.dpccars.com/car-movies/08-21 ... Beetle.htm

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 6:31 pm

marin wrote:
matt.mcinnes wrote:Marin's splitters are in along with a few extra. Along with 4 dash 8 straight fittings.

SNIP

*opens wallet again to pay for some more fantastic engineering*

Should be interesting to see what we can come up with for a radiator for it when I'm home for christmas and we put it all together..... I think we shall be getting the grinder out again lol if only for the grill.

marin

Move the air con thermo fan and lose the air horns and there should be plenty of space with a few minor adjustments.

Post by **coxy321** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:32 pm

bogged wrote:http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=umoY7DgvRTQ
add one to this - 1000HP GU

That bonnet scoop is fully sick uleh!! Where can i buy one??

And yes, it does need a laminova cooler, cause the HKS one it has looks just plain old tacky. That was a terrible looking install.

(video need subs)

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:42 pm

Awill4x4 has been busy today.

Post by **coxy321** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:39 pm

Off topic, but thats a fuggin HUGE set of brakes on that beamer!!

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 5:36 am

coxy321 wrote:Off topic, but thats a fuggin HUGE set of brakes on that beamer!!

It's going to need them with our intercooler fitted

Post by **awill4x4** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 4:06 pm

coxy321 wrote:Off topic, but thats a fuggin HUGE set of brakes on that beamer!!

Yeah, Tom the BMW's owner is also the owner of PPM Racing (Pure Performance Motorsport) He has the brakes made to his specs (6 spot on this car) and also a fine range of H beam conrods and forged pistons mainly for the European market but also does low volume builds as well.
His website is www.ppmracing.com if anyone wants to check out what he does.
Regards Andrew.

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:20 pm

The Mav saw some work over Christmas

The start of the heat exchanger, after me and Marin and DaveJB spent half the day at the wreckers we elected to go with a late modle Telstar radiator.
We let Marin grind a little bit of the grill away but only a little bit none of the chrome was lost

Feed to the pump

The radiator is currently at TrikFab having Aluminum end tanks welded on, replacing the plastic ones so we can put the water in and out where we want.

Post by **awill4x4** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:08 pm

I hope your not annoying my boss Darren at Trikfab Matt?
Regards Andrew.

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:10 pm

awill4x4 wrote:I hope your not annoying my boss Darren at Trikfab Matt?
Regards Andrew.

He has more work to do tomorrow something about people taking too much time off

PS

Happy new year sir to you and your family

Post by **matt.mcinnes** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:43 pm

End tanks done and a quick check for size.

Just the inlets and out lets and mountings to do.

Post by **Z()LTAN** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:51 pm

matt,

any downfall if i were to put my heat exchanger on the back of the ute with twin thermos?

Maby use a Toyota 79series rad and make reducers for the tank openings?

Ps i even took out my A/C condenser to allow full flow for the engine radiator.

Post by **+dj_hansen+** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:57 pm

Z()LTAN wrote:matt,

any downfall if i were to put my heat exchanger on the back of the ute with twin thermos?

Maby use a Toyota 79series rad and make reducers for the tank openings?

Ps i even took out my A/C condenser to allow full flow for the engine radiator.

Nope, matt has his running in the back of his 40 with a thermo-fan. The problem just becomes water flow, i think he uses a davies craig ewp.

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