EL Falcon ALT Into Sierra 1.6 with pics

Post by **wideaz** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:01 am

can anyone fit me up a el falcon alt upgrade to my zook
will pay good money to get it fitted
any one knows how to do it
how much im in melbourne
thanks

Post by **ajsr** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:45 am

dude they bolt straight in
these are good things to do yourself to learn about cars.
cheers andrew

Post by **86slowsierra** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:54 am

dont you have a 1.6 now?
im not sure if this mod will be as easy as a 1.3.

Post by **BOGFROG** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:02 am

It's an easy job Wideaz all the info you need is on here and you'll get more satisfaction from having a go yourself just gather all the info and parts you need and give it a crack! Here is the info you need:

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic137417.php
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/vi ... p?t=116388
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic79826.php

Read thru this lot and you should have a firm grasp on doing this mod.

Cheers Robb.

Post by **wideaz** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:16 am

thanks guys

yeah i have the 1.6 so i wonder if this will be any different
any one done this mod on a 1.6 carby

Post by **Superduki** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:40 pm

yeah I did the swap on my old 1.6 carby vit donk in my sierra. It was a straight bolt up practically, and I just changed the plug on the alternator, and all was good. I left the extra wide pully on the alternator, cause the vit donk is only a 4 rib wide or something like that?
Have a go mate, you will learn first hand then!

Cheers Superduki.

Post by **wideaz** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:26 am

thanks superduki thats exactly what i needed to know
i will do this mod asap
also i got quoted 285 dollars for a brand new one
so i take it everyone got one at the wreckers
cheers

Post by **Gwagensteve** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:43 am

Yep - wreckers are the go.

Steve.

Post by **wideaz** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:54 am

thanks steve got one already 70 bucks with 1 month warrenty

Post by **wideaz** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:36 am

change of mind actually im paying 100 bucks with 3 months warrenty and its the 110amp mitishibisnt ghia el fairmony alt

just wondering i need the v pulley alt dont i
reading the bible threads say the v pulley is the one i need and it doesnt matter if is a short pulley or long pulley cause my belt will fit on either way
correct???????????

Post by **Gwagensteve** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:42 am

Are you sure you need a v pulley? I thought coilers had Multi V stock, and you have a vitara motor and these are often (always) multi V?

It's an easier (and better) job if your existing alternator is multi V - multi V belts cope with the load of the big alternator better.

Steve.

Post by **wideaz** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:47 am

ok ill get the mulity v pulley on the alt
i dont know what my 1.6 has ill check tonight
i just dont want to brake belts like some people have
i cant believe it clears everything fine just redrill and bolt in
this is a great upgrade

all i know is when i looked at it the sticker says mitishibshi 50a
i dont need this upgrade but thought it would be good to have
more charge power is always good to have

Post by **Gwagensteve** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:03 am

All the 110A alternators are multi V - you have to swap it to single V if that's what your block runs.

a single V belt is definitely marginal with the 110A alternator.

Steve.

Post by **Moph** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:26 am

Single V may be marginal but I've done 5000k's on mine with no stretch or noticeable signs of wear thus far. I do carry a spare though, just in case

Post by **Gwagensteve** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:37 am

I've struggled with belt slip.

Note also that falcons use a wider belt than suzuki, so a suzuki belt doesn't fit 100% properly in the falcon pulley.

Steve.

Post by **wideaz** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:05 pm

boys you wont beieve it

the falcon alt with 110amps bolted up straight away
no redrilling no machineing no new bolts

just changed the wire connections and used my original bolts and new belt

whole thing cost $150 with 2 new belts
took 1.5 hrs to do

now the zook starts like its on steriods all my lights winch thermo all work great with out any drop in revs or voltage
highly recommend

Post by **Moph** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:23 pm

Gwagensteve wrote:I've struggled with belt slip.

Note also that falcons use a wider belt than suzuki, so a suzuki belt doesn't fit 100% properly in the falcon pulley.

Steve.

Hmmm. Never noticed that before, but just checked and you're right - Falcon pulley is maybe 1 - 1.5mm wider. Belt still seems to jam in there okay though.

Haven't had any audible belt slip and I'm pretty picky with squealing bits on my cars. Am running the EL Fairmont Ghia 110A alt - not sure if it's maybe higher quality / turns more freely than the Falcon 100A???

Post by **ajsr** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:49 pm

wideaz wrote:boys you wont beieve it

the falcon alt with 110amps bolted up straight away
no redrilling no machineing no new bolts

just changed the wire connections and used my original bolts and new belt

whole thing cost $150 with 2 new belts
took 1.5 hrs to do

now the zook starts like its on steriods all my lights winch thermo all work great with out any drop in revs or voltage
highly recommend

meet our new DIY convert wideaz. There will be no stopping him now

Post by **smileysmoke** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:26 pm

pics

no mods to the top bracket? good stuff

Post by **just cruizin'** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:47 pm

wideaz wrote:now the zook starts like its on steriods all my lights winch thermo all work great with out any drop in revs or voltage
highly recommend

Please note the alternator makes no difference to the starting capability of your engine, it's all battery baby yeah.

Post by **wideaz** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:11 am

maybe my batterys werent getting aenough charge now its starts better

ill get the pics tonight up for you all

yeah no mods to the bracket at all no mods anywhere just had to join the wires and it started perfectly
didnt have to change wires fuses regualtors and i had no problems with my battery lights staying on or not coming on it went smooth as
one of my best mods to my zook

Post by **wideaz** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:27 pm

NO MODIFYING ANTHING BUT WIRES DIRECT BOLT IN FOR 1.6

Post by **ajsr** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:36 pm

man thats one pretty engine bay
never seen one so clean on a zook

Post by **mnemonix** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:56 pm

He must use that special carwash they've been promoting at maccas drivethrough.

Post by **RockHopper** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:21 pm

ajsr wrote:man thats one pretty engine bay
never seen one so clean on a zook

U hav'nt seen mine then. Detailed to within an inch of it's life

I don't like to get my hands dirty when I'm working on it

Post by **PCRman** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:25 pm

lol came this close to new posting instead of reply.

Wideaz, looks good
Could you post a closeup pic of the ford sticker showing the part number and other details, it is visible in your third photo? Cheers

Also I'm trawling through all the 4pk bosch and ingram alternators to try and find a pulley that will fit on the ford alternator and allow a better fit than a 4pk belt on a 6pk pulley. Can anyone tell me the shaft diameter of the ford alt?

I may even find an different alt that comes stock with a 4pk pulley and is still a direct bolt up.

Post by **wideaz** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:30 am

Post by **germo** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:28 am

well done wideaz!

you ok!

untill you start to dribble again!

but for now your doing good!
good tech!

ashley

Post by **zookeenie** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:19 pm

just make sure the pulleys are square to each other,as they are wider than the belt..if not the belt may drift under load and high revs ,and end up throwing off..TEARS!!

Post by **tails83** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:05 pm

can you tell us the wiring for futre refernce. or what you did.

cheers

tails.

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