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Does a GQ with 3-4" lift need adjustable panhard rods?

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Post by Yom »

pretty much the exact same place mine bent too.


i reckon its just weakness...
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Post by jessie928 »

whitemav wrote:Dont know anyone that has ever bent the mount's, would have to be driving like a complete idiot.

Wasnt bent mate, just one good hit with a rock half way up the track.
if you havent seen a cracked and bent patrol panhard mount, then you aint seen many patrols.

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Post by whitemav »

Yeah sorry your right, I've never seen any :roll:
Not talking about the common issue with the early ones either mate. Either way a stronger panhard rod wont make a difference if driven properly.
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Post by BIG GQ »

whitemav wrote:Yeah sorry your right, I've never seen any :roll:
Not talking about the common issue with the early ones either mate. Either way a stronger panhard rod wont make a difference if driven properly.
Not sure what you mean by driven properly man?
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Post by jessie928 »

whitemav wrote:Yeah sorry your right, I've never seen any :roll:
Not talking about the common issue with the early ones either mate. Either way a stronger panhard rod wont make a difference if driven properly.
mate now your just spitting out random words in the hope they will unjumble themselves and make sense.
anyhow.

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Post by ... rick »

BIG GQ wrote:
BBM Rick wrote:
mickyd555 wrote:
BBM Rick wrote: If you are looking at lowers as well, check ours out. We offer a lifetime warranty on them!

Cheers,

Rick.
are you talking about the 3rds arms or do you have your own brand?
3rds arms.
Rick is this for 3rds arms purchased from any agent of just through yourself?

Also is this a true life time warranty or is life time considered 3yrs, etc
If you have had a drama mate please PM me and I will do what I can to sort you out.

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Post by BIG GQ »

No dramas Rick. I don't have a set mate. I am about to have another set made but when you said lifetime warranty I think you have convinced me to grab a set of 3rd's off you.
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Post by whitemav »

jessie928 wrote:
whitemav wrote:Yeah sorry your right, I've never seen any :roll:
Not talking about the common issue with the early ones either mate. Either way a stronger panhard rod wont make a difference if driven properly.
mate now your just spitting out random words in the hope they will unjumble themselves and make sense.
anyhow.

Jes
Since you know everything, I would have thought you would have heard about the extra bracing the later GQ's had after some early ones developed cracks in the front panhard rod mount.

Anyhow mate, Im just saying that in my experience which envolves a lot of GQ's driven fairly hard as weekend fun but not comp style abuse, and no one I know has ever had a problem running HD panhard rod's.

Since you have seen so many GQ's, why dont you put some evidence out there of this problem that your such an expert at, rather than just shutting my opinion down.
Im happy to be proven wrong, but dont just go and say they break on comp cars, as we all know everything breaks on comp cars ;)
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Post by Yom »

even a HD superior panhard will bend before the rear panhard to chassis mount cracks (well, it looks like it to me). On the GQ (especially the series 2) the rear section of the chassis is a bloody tough area with the exception of the spring hats obviously.

Although i wouldn't be suprised if you were bending superior's panhards every weekend you'd eventually be fatiguing the chassis.

I've heard of front panhard mounts cracking, usually along with the steering box though. But name a 4wd available which doesn't have this fatigue problem when used constantly on heavily corrugated roads. If there is one, its not a nissan or a toyota.
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Post by jessie928 »

whitemav wrote:
jessie928 wrote:
whitemav wrote:Yeah sorry your right, I've never seen any :roll:
Not talking about the common issue with the early ones either mate. Either way a stronger panhard rod wont make a difference if driven properly.
mate now your just spitting out random words in the hope they will unjumble themselves and make sense.
anyhow.

Jes
Since you know everything, I would have thought you would have heard about the extra bracing the later GQ's had after some early ones developed cracks in the front panhard rod mount.

Anyhow mate, Im just saying that in my experience which envolves a lot of GQ's driven fairly hard as weekend fun but not comp style abuse, and no one I know has ever had a problem running HD panhard rod's.

Since you have seen so many GQ's, why dont you put some evidence out there of this problem that your such an expert at, rather than just shutting my opinion down.
Im happy to be proven wrong, but dont just go and say they break on comp cars, as we all know everything breaks on comp cars ;)
early and late patrols are prone to bending/cracking the chassis on hard side impact with HD panhards at the front. the early ones just crack, thats why nissan retrofitted them with a big arse brace that bolts to the steering box bolts :)

they do actually break on pavement pounder weekend warriors also,

but anyhow.
as i say, use at your peril :)

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Post by ausyota »

jessie928 wrote: thats why nissan retrofitted them with a big arse brace that bolts to the steering box bolts :)
So lets keep this constructive...
Can this brace be fitted to early model GQs to add some strength?
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Post by jessie928 »

ausyota wrote:
jessie928 wrote: thats why nissan retrofitted them with a big arse brace that bolts to the steering box bolts :)
So lets keep this constructive...
Can this brace be fitted to early model GQs to add some strength?
yep, early and late models.

you need the steering box bolts and the brace.

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Post by Yom »

jessie928 wrote:
whitemav wrote:
jessie928 wrote:
whitemav wrote:Yeah sorry your right, I've never seen any :roll:
Not talking about the common issue with the early ones either mate. Either way a stronger panhard rod wont make a difference if driven properly.
mate now your just spitting out random words in the hope they will unjumble themselves and make sense.
anyhow.

Jes
Since you know everything, I would have thought you would have heard about the extra bracing the later GQ's had after some early ones developed cracks in the front panhard rod mount.

Anyhow mate, Im just saying that in my experience which envolves a lot of GQ's driven fairly hard as weekend fun but not comp style abuse, and no one I know has ever had a problem running HD panhard rod's.

Since you have seen so many GQ's, why dont you put some evidence out there of this problem that your such an expert at, rather than just shutting my opinion down.
Im happy to be proven wrong, but dont just go and say they break on comp cars, as we all know everything breaks on comp cars ;)
early and late patrols are prone to bending/cracking the chassis on hard side impact with HD panhards at the front. the early ones just crack, thats why nissan retrofitted them with a big arse brace that bolts to the steering box bolts :)

they do actually break on pavement pounder weekend warriors also,

but anyhow.
as i say, use at your peril :)

JEs
Only my (probably unwanted) 2c but you may as well post that in general 4wd tech because we could find examples all around the world to situations where people have had the exact same issues with their rovers, cruisers, suzukis etc. some probably even with stock panhard rods.

I reckon you can't drive around in fear of every little thing which might happen because the internet said so - but thats just what i think. If it worries you that much, reinforce the shit out of it to make sure it doesnt happen. Thats what nissan did with that huge bolt on bracket they made for the series 1 chassis - seen a few of them and they're great looking things.
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Post by ausyota »

Well I fitted my new heavy duty panhards and the new bushes completely cured the death wobbles I had.
It turns out my GQ has allready got the panhard mount brace that goes back to the steering box mount bolts.
Now to fit the HD rear lowers and the drop boxs.
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Post by twodiffs »

Hang on..it's been a hard weekend but i didn't demolish that much bourbon, can someone post a pic of this 'nissan retrofitted them with a big arse brace that bolts to the steering box bolts' please? this is something knew i haven't heard about.
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