Am I missing something does IVECO own tata or does tata own iveco or has the land rover designers jumped ship? I'm looking at an Iveco 4x4 daily for a work vehicle and found this model its call MASSIF and is a dead rip-off of a defender even the roof has the rear top window in it and the wings are the same and the bonnet has the bulge in it and it sort of looks good (I cant believe I just said that)
http://www.massif.iveco.com/?lang=en
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"The Massif was styled by Giorgetto Giugiaro and the Iveco Style Centre. The Massif bares a clear family resemblance to its sister product the Santana PS-10 which itself was heavily based on the Land Rover Defender. Automotive critics have drawn obvious physical comparisons between the Iveco Massif and Land Rover’s Defender."
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"Will it be better than the Defender? I doubt it, it's a Series III Land Rover.
For many years Santana assembled Land Rovers under licence in Spain. They split with LR before LR replaced the Series III with the coil-sprung 90 and 110. Santana carried on building the Series III then Iveco bought them. The Massif is that Santana updated Series III with some modern engines and the cart springs that LR haven't used for 25 years."
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"Will it be better than the Defender? I doubt it, it's a Series III Land Rover.
For many years Santana assembled Land Rovers under licence in Spain. They split with LR before LR replaced the Series III with the coil-sprung 90 and 110. Santana carried on building the Series III then Iveco bought them. The Massif is that Santana updated Series III with some modern engines and the cart springs that LR haven't used for 25 years."
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Re: Massif
It is a Series 3 with stronget axles than a defender, a bigger and better engine, and a stronger (or equally strong) gearbox.Hally wrote:Yes my thoughts exactly its a series three thanks for the history i wish there was a defender space cab
With coil springs and a wider track it would be just about perfect.
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RUFF wrote:Beally STFU Your becoming a real PITA.
Looks verry similar to the new defender and is probably better at least it has better axles and a rear diff lock and a more powerfull engin 
I dont know how ya could class it as a series 3 it has disc all round power steer and i bet it dont fawkin leak in the rain id like to see one in the flesh as for the leaf springs there parabolics so id say it would ride just like a coiler
I dont know how ya could class it as a series 3 it has disc all round power steer and i bet it dont fawkin leak in the rain id like to see one in the flesh as for the leaf springs there parabolics so id say it would ride just like a coiler
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