big build

[big_fyt]

hey guys am new here looks pretty good.


i own a 97' 2.8ld hilux

it is pretty stock at the moment but i want to do alot to it.

just wondering if a few hilux owners can give me some tips/ advice on how to go about

adding a turbo
new exhaust
body lift and spring lift
what tyres i should fit
air lockers
and what size winch i need.

i am only new to the 4wd world even though i have been driving my old mans since i was a kid.

cheers

[berad]

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[thehanko]

adding a turbo
new exhaust
body lift and spring lift
what tyres i should fit
air lockers
and what size winch i need.

yeah hit the bible

First thing is to decide what you want the car to be. where do you see yourself driving it when its done.

Is it also your daily driver - ie does it need to stay good to drive on road.

I cant help with all your info but as ive got the same car and am part way into it, ill give you what i know.

TURBO:
CT20 kit straight from a toyota surf will bolt on you just have to move an exhaust stud. This makes a big difference. like 10 seconds off your 0-100 times. it makes a pig of a slow car into just a slow car. so much nicer to drive.
I have also found steeper hills are doable in Low 2nd where as before i had to use low 1st as it just didnt have the torque.
costs about $500 to find a second hand unit complete. just check it out for to much play in the shaft etc.

or for 6 times the price you can go for an aftermarket unit - better power etc but from what i can tell not that much extra.

i have 5psi at 1500 revs and it builds to max at about 2100 and stays there at 11psi as long as i want. so i think the ct 20 is fine.

Exhaust: get one to suit your turbo, ideally a 3 inch dump pipe to help hot air flow out of the turbo then 3 inch straight through or 2.5 is fine. they are not a noisy car, i just have a hot dog no muffler.

BODY LIFT/ suspension
This all depends on which springs you go for and what size tyres you want to fit.

eg, if your want 33inch tyres then you will need 50mm body lift and 50 mm spring lift.

if you want 35's then maybe 50 + 75-100mm springs. but you would also need to start moving diffs forward etc which is an expensive job, as you need to change steering set up as well.

This is why its important to know where you want the car to finish up so you dont do thigs twice.

50mm blocks cost about $7 each, then you just need some high tensile bolts to suit. 6 for a single cab, 8 for a dual cab.

I think you also need to alter your radiator mounts. and bullbar mounts etc if it has one.

rear springs off an ifs model hilux are longer that your stock ones, and make a good option for better flex in the rear. hilux back ends are very stiff when stock. the fronts are average. i did my rears only recently and if made a huge difference to my traction and how hard i had to drive my car to get places.

Tyres:

see above, im going 33's as 35's are pretty hard on a hilux drive line, particularly the cv's. and need less overall mods. but if you want to build a weapon then you will be looking for bigger later down the track so build for that to start with.
note that 33's are the biggest road legal tyre size in most states.

Lockers:
I havent got them. there is huge debate over auto lockers, pros and cons, but they fit a tight budget better.
air lockers are great, but do have their own problems, mainly due to bad instalation. plus cost about 4-5k supplied and fitted.

best to learn to drive without them first.


for a hilux -the winch doesnt need to be huge - im assuming your not looking to do comps. i have a 9000 p, which for a lux is fine, and i figure if i have to pull my mate fat heavy 100 series out of the mud, a winch block will take care of it.

[big_fyt]

cheers for that mate.

yeh sorry i didn't really explain myself properly.


it is a daily drive and i want it to be capable enough to pretty much go through all type of tracks but not comps or rock crawling.

i want to run 33' tyres however i don't want to fork out all the money to buy MT's other good quality better for a tight budget brands?

also a good place to source the second hand parts in nsw? so ar i have found nothing but queensland 4wd wreckers.

[thehanko]

try an add in the wanted section here. my last part took 24 hours to source.

ebay is a good spot too, but you have to be patient. my rear springs cost $70 and im very happy with them.

I bought a second hand set of mud tyres which are 90% good for about 400 for a set of 5 - again ebay. but it took a few weeks to find them.

I now run two sets, 31 road tyres for every day and 33's will just be play tyres... when i finally get them fitted that is...

I would start off getting some flex into the back end and a little more height out of the front.

bigger tyres, with good tread as its one of the most effective mods.

dont worry about lockers etc until you find your ambitions are outstriping your car. When i first started driving 6 months ago, i couldnt get many places and was dissappointed in my car.
some basic mods - not even my muddies yet to get more flex out of the old boy and some more driving experience and i now get up tracks first attempt that i would not have got up after multiple attempts when i started.

start with the basics and just get out there and start driving it. you will find out as you go, oh crap this is rubbing i need to mod this, etc etc.

then ask here for specifics as you learn along the way.

[thehanko]

heres a turbo set up, sounds ideal! rebuilt turbo and all.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/toyota-hilux-2-8 ... 240%3A1318

[Weiner]

I have just got the 2.8, no turbo it is painful but its not a DD so its alright.

I have 35's n it, you will have to change the diff ratios to be hppy andalso I put in Longfield CV's for cheap insurance Have 2" springs and extended shackles so about 3" in total, and the tyres only rub on the firewall when turning right and compressed

[johnsy86]

upgraded cvs when u bust them 1st, dont bother with fitting standard ones again bite the bullet and buy longfields this is by far the best mod ive done to mine, no need to worry bout cv,s till i start funning 39's or bigger tyre,

[berad]

mtz's are a good all round tyre, one of the best bang for buck tyres in my opinion anyway.

when i bought mine a while ago they were 1300 on new sunnies

33x12.5x15

Also 33's are illegal on a hilux on the road.


97 when the hiluxs's changed is it an ifs or does it have a solid front axle.

You dont need 4 inchs of lift for 33's, playing around with bumpstop points is a cheap/free mod to stop tyres eating guards etc.

the sky is the limit, you could spend 10k on it tomorow and it still would be far from a RELIABLE go most places truck, done right and researched half that and it will be very capable.

If i started again and didnt have funds to go out and buy alot of shit at once, lock the front diff, locrite etc if you cant afford an air locker, and chuck some 33s on it with some longer shocks and mess with the bumpstops, pull a load leaf and mess with the packs and drive it until you can do more.

[flyinwall]

maxxis big horn tyres are a good bang for buck tyre as you can get a set of 4 from ebay for $900 (i know as i got them from there as well)

[thehanko]

Also 33's are illegal on a hilux on the road.

some hiluxes came out on 29's some hilux's came out on 31's as standard so 33's should be legal???

I assumed due to the 2.8 diesel that it was an early 97 and therefore solid axel front.

can you confirm if the front axel looks like the rear one - ie a solid beam from side to side, or is the front end independant on each side?

[Weiner]

Also 33's are illegal on a hilux on the road.

some hiluxes came out on 29's some hilux's came out on 31's as standard so 33's should be legal???

I assumed due to the 2.8 diesel that it was an early 97 and therefore solid axel front.

can you confirm if the front axel looks like the rear one - ie a solid beam from side to side, or is the front end independant on each side?

As long as its not an extra cab it will be solid

[berad]

indeed, mine came stock with 31's, but a truck with 31s stock is like 32.4 or something like that, i keep a set of 31s just in case though.

[big_fyt]

can i fit a 50mm (2") body lift to my truck without having to get a drop steering arm/ other upgrades?

also anybody know of any places that do custom barwork cheap?

[macca81]

im legally running 33s. and they fit with just a 2" body lift and a little tap with a hammer on the guards. no sus lift.

in regards to the steering when doing a BL, just loosen off the bolts on the splined part of the shaft b4 u lift it, the re-tighten them once your done(dont forget about the re-tighten part...)

unlimited industries did my front bar for $900 plus freight.