hilux transfer case swap

Post by **skippa83** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:11 pm

hey guys, i was just wondering what needs to be done to swap out the suzuki tansfer case to a hilux transfer case? do you need to make new mounts and do you have to get new drive shafts? any help will be appreciated cause i am on my third transfer case and i really want to sort the problem out for good....all three cases became noisy after about three months.

Post by **11_evl** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:30 pm

i think you answered your own question.
New mounts = YES
Custom drive shafts = YES

the main question is why are you breaking the stock ones??

do you have gears?
do you run the correct oil?
do you have a rocktoy ring?
do you have case protection?

Post by **nicbeer** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:52 pm

more so did you put oil in them and also do u do water runs?

Post by **joeblow** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:56 pm

turn the stereo up.

Post by **skippa83** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:19 pm

the transfer cases have had oil in them they were changed as soon as the case went in and filled to the correct level, i dont have gears the only mod is i have 31inch tyres on it and a body lift...i dont do alot of mud driving mostly crawling through gullys and hill climbs

Post by **flyinwall** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:03 pm

another option is th mq (i think) patrol t/case as i think it is a divorced t/case just like the zook t/case so it might take less work to get it set up under the zook

Post by **zookimal** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:09 pm

3 transfers with 31s? How are you driving this thing? Busting cases or gears?
Axles? Centres? cvs?

Post by **GRPABT1** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:03 am

You're probably just coming to terms with using second hand 20 year old parts of unknown history. Get some aftermarket transfer gears for one of your cases and install them with new bearings and shafts etc and good thick oil and a decent after market mounting system and you will have no further troubles with your current setup.

Post by **r0ck_m0nkey** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:23 am

You do realise a Hilux has a 1:1 High Range. Running around on 31's with a 1:1 high range will suck majorly.

Very few transfer from other models have an underdrive high range like a Sierra.

So you'd have to go to 5.12 diffs just to get close to stock high range gearing, not even factoring in what the 31's are doing to the gearing.

If you've gone through that many transfer cases, i think you get one of your old ones and rebuild it properly. Unless you know the history, there's no reason why your not going to face the same probalem with any other second hand transfer case regardless of what it comes from.

Post by **badger** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:54 am

if your ever coming towards brisbane bring your 3 stuffed cases ill give you a carton each for them

Post by **flyinwall** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:18 am

datsun 720 t/case is also a divorced t/case so there is another option

Post by **skippa83** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:42 am

thanks for the input guys it has helped heaps i was just considering what other options there were instead of just rebuilding a case, i think that is the way i will go though. cheers

Post by **GRPABT1** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:46 pm

www.locktup4x4.com.au for rebuild parts and gears. They supplied mine and were very cheap and helpful

Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:41 pm

y not go a 2.8 desel with the gear box and transfer out of a hilux thats wat my little bro is doing should go grate offroad and fairly good onroad

Post by **ZOOK60** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:52 pm

[quote="hillbilliywheelchair"]y not go a 2.8 desel with the gear box and transfer out of a hilux thats wat my little bro is doing should go grate offroad and fairly good onroad[/quote

I recon he is just wasting his time.

Post by **ZOOK60** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:55 pm

skippa83 wrote:hey guys, i was just wondering what needs to be done to swap out the suzuki tansfer case to a hilux transfer case? do you need to make new mounts and do you have to get new drive shafts? any help will be appreciated cause i am on my third transfer case and i really want to sort the problem out for good....all three cases became noisy after about three months.

Go and buy some tcase gears and a rebuild kit. Problem solved
If you need to know if you need new mounts then this probly too much of a conversion for you.

Post by **skippa83** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:25 pm

hey guys...the Transfer case i have in it now just has a whine in it as soon as you change into 3rd gear then it just keeps whining all the way through the top gears. i just want to know if i get new gears will that stop that noise? i will put the gears in myself and i have heard from people that a bush wears out in the transfer case which causes the noise. i will get gears and a seal kit is there anything else i will need to do the job and what kind of dollars am i looking at? cause this noise is driving me crazy!!!!!

Post by **mike_nofx** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:19 pm

31's and standard t/case gearing would suck big time wouldn't it?

I have 33s (actually measure closer to 32) with 4.2:1 t/case gearing and even that is not low enough in my opinion!

Post by **ScrawnC** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:31 pm

mike_nofx wrote:31's and standard t/case gearing would suck big time wouldn't it?

31's with standard gearing majorly sucks!! If you want to continue running 31's then get reduction gears!!

Post by **Mud_Muncher** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:39 pm

skippa83 wrote:hey guys...the Transfer case i have in it now just has a whine in it as soon as you change into 3rd gear then it just keeps whining all the way through the top gears. i just want to know if i get new gears will that stop that noise? i will put the gears in myself and i have heard from people that a bush wears out in the transfer case which causes the noise. i will get gears and a seal kit is there anything else i will need to do the job and what kind of dollars am i looking at? cause this noise is driving me crazy!!!!!

I have the same issue with a sierra transfer in my jimny. If you can't hear it in 1st and 2nd does that mean it is in the gearbox not the transfer?

Post by **nicbeer** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:32 pm

mike_nofx wrote:31's and standard t/case gearing would suck big time wouldn't it?

I have 33s (actually measure closer to 32) with 4.2:1 t/case gearing and even that is not low enough in my opinion!

Depends on terrain i've found.

i run 31s with std gears but 1.6mpfi and runs excellent on most to all terrains i run.

Post by **skippa83** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:39 pm

nah i had that trouble once before and i changed the gear box and it didnt change a thing...so i changed the transfer case and the noise was gone. i have got the same noise back in this transfer so i am hoping to get gears soon and hopefully make the transfer good so i dont have anymore dramas[/list][/quote]

Post by **Adsport** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:08 am

Mud_Muncher wrote: I have the same issue with a sierra transfer in my jimny. If you can't hear it in 1st and 2nd does that mean it is in the gearbox not the transfer?

i have the identical situation, mine makes a hell of a noise in 3rd and a little bit in 4th then nothing in 5th . 1st and 2nd are a little noisy but hell its a sierra. i assumed as you have that it was the gearbox so i ripped it out and put a toyota one in and now i hear it more because the new engine has more than 5hp

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