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shaving & bracing gq diffs
shaving & bracing gq diffs
hi i was just wondering whether it is worth time and effort and if u can still run a drain plug when u shave the diff pic would be appreciated
Bracing it yes is worth it but only if you are going to drive the thing HARD
Shaving the pumpkin (in my opinion) is not worth the hassle all for and extra 1" - 1.5" clearance
Shaving the pumpkin (in my opinion) is not worth the hassle all for and extra 1" - 1.5" clearance
Cheers
Linc
[quote="chimpboy"]Punctuation is the difference between 'I helped my Uncle Jack off his horse' and 'I helped my uncle jack off his horse.'[/quote]
Linc
[quote="chimpboy"]Punctuation is the difference between 'I helped my Uncle Jack off his horse' and 'I helped my uncle jack off his horse.'[/quote]
20mm is the most you can really get on a GQ housing successfully.
We remove the bottom stud and replace it with a bolt that holds the carrier on, and this becomes the drain plug.
We normally tube the axles, rotate the balls for castor, and brace the outsides where required at the same time. Weight does become an issue if you go overboard, and having a complete housing made doesnt work out much dearer sometimes.
These are some we did to put under a TJ wrangler, had to swap sides on the centre, kept all the axle lengths the same though.
We remove the bottom stud and replace it with a bolt that holds the carrier on, and this becomes the drain plug.
We normally tube the axles, rotate the balls for castor, and brace the outsides where required at the same time. Weight does become an issue if you go overboard, and having a complete housing made doesnt work out much dearer sometimes.
These are some we did to put under a TJ wrangler, had to swap sides on the centre, kept all the axle lengths the same though.
i had my front diff stripped for some new bearings seals and cv's a while back. while it was out i decided that i might as well strenghten it up. bought the kit from superior and added a few more hussets here and there. pretty happy with it.
didnt go to the effort of shaving it though. just buy bigger tread!
didnt go to the effort of shaving it though. just buy bigger tread!
when adding protection to the actual diff ( centre ) housing be carefull of the clearance to the panhard rod.
I have a superior brace kit and the pumpkin gaurd fouls on the panhard rod. the brace that runs along the top of the tube also hits the sump on full compression.
I'm running standard bumpstops and radius arm spacers.
I made the mistake of thinking " It's superior gear so it'll be right'' without checking clearances because other bits i've got of them has always been spot on.
Just be careful because clearances are tight around patrol front diffs when using standard bumpstops.
The guy at Superior said everyone who has fitted this kit has also extended their bumpstops, which i don't want to do so im bracing up another one and i'll have the other up for sale.
it's a GU too.
I have a superior brace kit and the pumpkin gaurd fouls on the panhard rod. the brace that runs along the top of the tube also hits the sump on full compression.
I'm running standard bumpstops and radius arm spacers.
I made the mistake of thinking " It's superior gear so it'll be right'' without checking clearances because other bits i've got of them has always been spot on.
Just be careful because clearances are tight around patrol front diffs when using standard bumpstops.
The guy at Superior said everyone who has fitted this kit has also extended their bumpstops, which i don't want to do so im bracing up another one and i'll have the other up for sale.
it's a GU too.
Just to clarify a little, if a 2-3 inch lift has our brace kit fitted it is recommended to drop the bump stops as the panhard "may hit the guard on FULL compression and the top brace may hit the sump.
This will also depend on what brand panhard as some cheap and nasty pandards are small dia and will clear the guard, but the sump may hit.
When we designed the kit we designed it for 4+ inch lifts because most comp trucks are around the 4 inch lift.
Other factors are if you run drop boxes or drop radius arms or spacers your diff is pushed further forwards so if to much compression is encountered their is a possibility the panhard may hit the guard.
Their is thousands of our diff brace kits sold with a very small number of people that have had problems, maybe 5 that i have heard of, mainly winch challenge trucks that we have done custom non adjustable panards for clearance.
But if any bracing is fitted it does pay to check for clearance problems.
Our series 2 diff guards that will be part of the elite SRC range
" SUPERIOR RACE COMPONENTS " launched soon, will be a very close to the diff, this will suit some people better.
This will also depend on what brand panhard as some cheap and nasty pandards are small dia and will clear the guard, but the sump may hit.
When we designed the kit we designed it for 4+ inch lifts because most comp trucks are around the 4 inch lift.
Other factors are if you run drop boxes or drop radius arms or spacers your diff is pushed further forwards so if to much compression is encountered their is a possibility the panhard may hit the guard.
Their is thousands of our diff brace kits sold with a very small number of people that have had problems, maybe 5 that i have heard of, mainly winch challenge trucks that we have done custom non adjustable panards for clearance.
But if any bracing is fitted it does pay to check for clearance problems.
Our series 2 diff guards that will be part of the elite SRC range
" SUPERIOR RACE COMPONENTS " launched soon, will be a very close to the diff, this will suit some people better.
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SuperiorEngineering wrote:Just to clarify a little, if a 2-3 inch lift has our brace kit fitted it is recommended to drop the bump stops as the panhard "may hit the guard on FULL compression and the top brace may hit the sump.
This will also depend on what brand panhard as some cheap and nasty pandards are small dia and will clear the guard, but the sump may hit.
When we designed the kit we designed it for 4+ inch lifts because most comp trucks are around the 4 inch lift.
Other factors are if you run drop boxes or drop radius arms or spacers your diff is pushed further forwards so if to much compression is encountered their is a possibility the panhard may hit the guard.
Their is thousands of our diff brace kits sold with a very small number of people that have had problems, maybe 5 that i have heard of, mainly winch challenge trucks that we have done custom non adjustable panards for clearance.
But if any bracing is fitted it does pay to check for clearance problems.
Our series 2 diff guards that will be part of the elite SRC range
" SUPERIOR RACE COMPONENTS " launched soon, will be a very close to the diff, this will suit some people better.
I think you should be making people aware of these issues before you sell it to them, especially when you are aware of the problem.
It would of saved me some drama's.
I've extende my front bumpstops for now but plan on bracing another one. Just need the gussets for the top of steering knuckles ( from superior ) and the rest i'll fab up my self..
[quote="sidewayz"]just wondering,
if you are fabing up the rest of the bracing urself, why not fab the gussets? i would think they would be the easiest part of the kit to fab up? :S[/quote
The top gussets have a little more detail to them.
The clearance to swivel hub whilst turning is a bit tight, and the gussets are bevelled to accomodate it.
Your right i should probably spend the time and make them myself, but i thought it would just be easier, ( the job is never as much fun the second time around )
if you are fabing up the rest of the bracing urself, why not fab the gussets? i would think they would be the easiest part of the kit to fab up? :S[/quote
The top gussets have a little more detail to them.
The clearance to swivel hub whilst turning is a bit tight, and the gussets are bevelled to accomodate it.
Your right i should probably spend the time and make them myself, but i thought it would just be easier, ( the job is never as much fun the second time around )
steel wrote:SuperiorEngineering wrote:Just to clarify a little, if a 2-3 inch lift has our brace kit fitted it is recommended to drop the bump stops as the panhard "may hit the guard on FULL compression and the top brace may hit the sump.
This will also depend on what brand panhard as some cheap and nasty pandards are small dia and will clear the guard, but the sump may hit.
When we designed the kit we designed it for 4+ inch lifts because most comp trucks are around the 4 inch lift.
Other factors are if you run drop boxes or drop radius arms or spacers your diff is pushed further forwards so if to much compression is encountered their is a possibility the panhard may hit the guard.
Their is thousands of our diff brace kits sold with a very small number of people that have had problems, maybe 5 that i have heard of, mainly winch challenge trucks that we have done custom non adjustable panards for clearance.
But if any bracing is fitted it does pay to check for clearance problems.
Our series 2 diff guards that will be part of the elite SRC range
" SUPERIOR RACE COMPONENTS " launched soon, will be a very close to the diff, this will suit some people better.
I think you should be making people aware of these issues before you sell it to them, especially when you are aware of the problem.
It would of saved me some drama's.
I've extende my front bumpstops for now but plan on bracing another one. Just need the gussets for the top of steering knuckles ( from superior ) and the rest i'll fab up my self..
so how about some info on these series 2 diff gaurds, some pic's would be nice too.
BTW im having these issues with a standard panhard rod, ( albeit with radius arm spacers ) but will soon need to clear one of superiors adjustable rods.
Will your S.R.C range include a different brace for above axle tube too?
I'm not in a hurry as i've got alot of other shit on, but still want to get parts sorted.
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