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454 chev in 80 series???

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Post by Jeff80 »

Dare I ask, whats it like on fuel? KM's/L?
Price of donk?
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Post by PSI-EFI »

Jeff80 wrote:Dare I ask, whats it like on fuel? KM's/L?
Price of donk?
its actuallt pretty good on fuel... now with the straight gas getting around 4.5-5.5 kays per litre on the highway taking it easy... around town it gets 3.5-4.. and towing around 2 kays.. donk by itself was around the 7.5 mark
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Post by gq351 »

looks grouse mate!! very neat job ;)

how is it on straight gas :?: :?:
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well worth the efort hey!!
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Post by Struth »

PSI-EFI wrote:
Jeff80 wrote:Dare I ask, whats it like on fuel? KM's/L?
Price of donk?
its actuallt pretty good on fuel... now with the straight gas getting around 4.5-5.5 kays per litre on the highway taking it easy... around town it gets 3.5-4.. and towing around 2 kays.. donk by itself was around the 7.5 mark
That's 18 to 22L per 100 on Hiway and 25 to 28 L per 100 around town.

Pretty thirsty, my EFI 5.0 in a Runner gets 20L per 100 around town and 17L per 100 hiway.

But we don't put these engines in unless we can afford to fill the tank :D

I say GO FOR IT!
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Post by gq351 »

Struth wrote:
PSI-EFI wrote:
Jeff80 wrote:Dare I ask, whats it like on fuel? KM's/L?
Price of donk?
its actuallt pretty good on fuel... now with the straight gas getting around 4.5-5.5 kays per litre on the highway taking it easy... around town it gets 3.5-4.. and towing around 2 kays.. donk by itself was around the 7.5 mark
That's 18 to 22L per 100 on Hiway and 25 to 28 L per 100 around town.

Pretty thirsty, my EFI 5.0 in a Runner gets 20L per 100 around town and 17L per 100 hiway.

But we don't put these engines in unless we can afford to fill the tank :D

I say GO FOR IT!
not alot of difference i guess considering your adding another 150 cubic inches & 2.4 litres on the 5litre ;)
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Post by Struth »

gq351 wrote:
Struth wrote:
PSI-EFI wrote:
Jeff80 wrote:Dare I ask, whats it like on fuel? KM's/L?
Price of donk?
its actuallt pretty good on fuel... now with the straight gas getting around 4.5-5.5 kays per litre on the highway taking it easy... around town it gets 3.5-4.. and towing around 2 kays.. donk by itself was around the 7.5 mark
That's 18 to 22L per 100 on Hiway and 25 to 28 L per 100 around town.

Pretty thirsty, my EFI 5.0 in a Runner gets 20L per 100 around town and 17L per 100 hiway.

But we don't put these engines in unless we can afford to fill the tank :D

I say GO FOR IT!
not alot of difference i guess considering your adding another 150 cubic inches & 2.4 litres on the 5litre ;)
And probably 1000kg on the rig :D

But there is not much use putting 5.0L in an 80, it wont go any better than the 4.5

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Post by PSI-EFI »

gq351 wrote:looks grouse mate!! very neat job ;)

how is it on straight gas :?: :?:
thanks chief

yer its awesome on gas.. i rekon it runs as good as when it was on petrol, however we do miss the punch that it had up high and near takeoff.. however its still good and quick

ur one looks sick.. crate engine? looks like a nice fit.. hows your one go? and what sort of engine specs have you got? like for e.g my old mans one is around the 8.5 comp with a 502 cam.. its more like a stocky, just something with a bit more torque than the 4.5.. yours would proberly be more of a performance thing.. you from the states?
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Post by gq351 »

PSI-EFI wrote:
gq351 wrote:looks grouse mate!! very neat job ;)

how is it on straight gas :?: :?:
thanks chief

yer its awesome on gas.. i rekon it runs as good as when it was on petrol, however we do miss the punch that it had up high and near takeoff.. however its still good and quick

ur one looks sick.. crate engine? looks like a nice fit.. hows your one go? and what sort of engine specs have you got? like for e.g my old mans one is around the 8.5 comp with a 502 cam.. its more like a stocky, just something with a bit more torque than the 4.5.. yours would proberly be more of a performance thing.. you from the states?
thanks mate, yeah i was thinking of going gas reseach or something but not sure yet! i built mine myself its just mild fully ballanced, 10.1 comp, stage 4 crane cam, some head work, edelbrock manifold, 750dp holley, around the 440-460hp..
it will smoke 37''s in 1st & 2nd on the tare & will keep up with a new SS or XR8 so im happy with it, heaps enough for the bush!! :D :D
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Post by PSI-EFI »

gq351 wrote:
PSI-EFI wrote:
gq351 wrote:very neat job ;)
thanks mate, yeah i was thinking of going gas reseach or something but not sure yet! i built mine myself its just mild fully ballanced, 10.1 comp, stage 4 crane cam, some head work, edelbrock manifold, 750dp holley, around the 440-460hp..
it will smoke 37''s in 1st & 2nd on the tare & will keep up with a new SS or XR8 so im happy with it, heaps enough for the bush!! :D :D
jess
ooh ye.. sounds like your one has some balls.. must be a michine in mud and bush.. i recon gas research would be the way to go.. plus if you want you can run twin snorkerls or 2 into 1 for the water.. the only thing is that if your a dyno junkie, there's not too many gas research tuners out there, thats what we found when we wanted to dyno ourse, so still hasnt been read.. engines around 390 hp though.. dont expect much though, just a tow horse..
you got anymore pics of your setup? and i hope your not running one of them hei dizzys that come on the crate engines, we learnt he hard way, lol


oh and one more thing.. with the ttb's from the research setup, one of the mixers goes right over the oil filler cap, so we cant run a filter, and thats one of the issues my old man has atm when towing a load.. spits oil through the dipstick, but i think our manifold musnt be drilled for the vacuum or sumthing..
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Post by gq351 »

haha yeah its goes pretty hard!! its a bit out of control up the bush but i can live with that lol!! im thinking about gas research but i like having the punch on petrol like u said ;) mmm well i have got the HIE dizzy lol & fingers crossed i havent had a drama yet!!! but my brother has had nothing but trouble with them in his 350...
with the gas research i guess theres always something that wont fit ,, just like any mod !!! lol... GREAT work mate, love it :armsup: :D :armsup:
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these are da only pics i can find of the engine install!!!

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Post by money_killer »

love the big blocks :twisted:
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Post by bj on roids »

thrashlux wrote:It would depend on the engineer with regard to how flexible he would be with the emission requirements to weather you could use the wolf computer

just because it is efi dosn't mean it will pass an emission test
normally a computer will need to have closed loop control to pass a 1996 emissions test I dont think the wolf has this fully sorted to the point of satisfying an emissions test

You would most likley need an m800 with the lamda upgrade

you need by law to be able to pass the emissions of the original year of manufacture of the engine or the car which ever is the newer of the two

if you go lpg all that goes out the door

this is why so may ac cobras etc are LPG

Or the other trick is get it complied with the dedicated LPG then convert
it to dual fuel after the dust settles but that may be illeagal but sure to get under the radar

just an idea
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Post by PSI-EFI »

some good pics mate, brings back memories, lol..

we had heaps of issues with them dizzy's.. since replacing it with a bosch, we've had no problems..

hopefully your one isn't as stuffed as ours was.. :D
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Post by thrashlux »

bj on roids wrote:
thrashlux wrote:It would depend on the engineer with regard to how flexible he would be with the emission requirements to weather you could use the wolf computer

just because it is efi dosn't mean it will pass an emission test
normally a computer will need to have closed loop control to pass a 1996 emissions test I dont think the wolf has this fully sorted to the point of satisfying an emissions test

You would most likley need an m800 with the lamda upgrade

you need by law to be able to pass the emissions of the original year of manufacture of the engine or the car which ever is the newer of the two

if you go lpg all that goes out the door

this is why so may ac cobras etc are LPG

Or the other trick is get it complied with the dedicated LPG then convert
it to dual fuel after the dust settles but that may be illeagal but sure to get under the radar

just an idea
How do you know all this, and yet you live on kiribati? ;) :cool:

Hahah dude
i am originally from brisvagas and i was really big on modding cars (4x4 and performance cars) there and i will be back after my 2 years here in kiribati
then i will get stuck into it again

cheers

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