80 series lift

Post by **tuff_89zook** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:55 pm

hey was just wondering best combination of list to run i want to run 37+ tyres and dont wont them to scrub at all i was thinking 5- 6" suspension 2"coil spacers and if need 2-3" bodylift has any one done this before wjhat are the pros and cons i will be using all top quality parts no cheap stuff
thanks in advance nick

Post by **crankycruiser** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:27 pm

2" spring and 2" body and they will fit without scrubbing.

or 4-5" spring wil do it easy.

Post by **g35me** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:36 pm

On 37's a 4 inch lift is no good unless you are chopping your guards. 6 inch lift will work but will also require slight guard lippinng on the rear including slightly cutting the rear flares at the top. The front will need the inner guard on the outer most section bent in and also at the front make sure your wrap around wings on the bullbar dont hit as well. I am still waiting to see someone run 4 inches with no guard chop with 37's and have no rubbing. Sorry Cranky I just cant see it happening.

Post by **crankycruiser** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:48 pm

g35me wrote:On 37's a 4 inch lift is no good unless you are chopping your guards. 6 inch lift will work but will also require slight guard lippinng on the rear including slightly cutting the rear flares at the top. The front will need the inner guard on the outer most section bent in and also at the front make sure your wrap around wings on the bullbar dont hit as well. I am still waiting to see someone run 4 inches with no guard chop with 37's and have no rubbing. Sorry Cranky I just cant see it happening.

i ran 36" pedes on 4" lift no probs.. only just scrapped the front guards very rarley.. and 36" pedes measure the same as most 37s......

also one of my mates ran 36" pedes on 2 and 2.. and they NEVER touched

Post by **tuff_89zook** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:02 pm

thanks g35me would i be able to get away of no chopping if i run 6" suspension 2" coil spacers and say a 3" body

Post by **crankycruiser** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:28 pm

tuff_89zook wrote:thanks g35me would i be able to get away of no chopping if i run 6" suspension 2" coil spacers and say a 3" body

i run 38x15.5 on 6 and 2

Post by **simkell** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:32 pm

tuff_89zook wrote:thanks g35me would i be able to get away of no chopping if i run 6" suspension 2" coil spacers and say a 3" body

that would be very unstable one would think.

4 inch suspension and 2 inch body should be fine.

Post by **tuff_89zook** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:50 pm

y would it be unstable im replacing everything to suit whatever size i go im going to run flipped rims and a 13 - 14 wide tyres and everything that can be adjustable will be

Post by **crankycruiser** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:51 am

tuff_89zook wrote:y would it be unstable im replacing everything to suit whatever size i go im going to run flipped rims and a 13 - 14 wide tyres and everything that can be adjustable will be

its called physics mate! tbh higher u make it the higher it wil be..

IMHO 2 and 2 is heaps for 37's.. the higher u make it the easier it falls over... obvious i thought?

the lower the better... once i cbf i wil adjust my flipped arms and go lower.. lower is better. trust me.. ive had enuf scary moments on 6 and 2... and my car is as wide as it is high........

sounds like u just wanna make it high and "cool" which i wont argue with... but if u really wanna use it.. then the lower the better.. if u wanna jack the fucker up.. then just do it!

Post by **tuff_89zook** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:00 am

lmao yes i do want to make it high but that is because i dont wont to go spend 2000 - 3000 on rims and tyres and have them scrub plus i wont to get my gas tank as high as posible so i doesnt bottom out and being a petrol so if need be i can cross water
not just to be cool

Post by **simkell** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:27 am

6 inch suspension + 2 inch coil spacers + 2 inch body + 37 inch tyres = 13 inchs or 330mm higher than standard. That is very high and with a vehicle that is already top heavy it would make for an interesting ride.

keep the center of gravity as low as possible to fit your 37's. If needed reduce the amount of compression to reduce rub on components or chop/ trim guards as necessary to fit your tyres. plus being 13 inches higher creates its own problems with steering links and geometry. But in the end it is your car and anything is possible and it is your call.

Post by **g35me** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:05 am

tuff_89zook wrote:thanks g35me would i be able to get away of no chopping if i run 6" suspension 2" coil spacers and say a 3" body

I think that is a bit too much. 4inch suspension and 2 inch body is all I would go with 37inch tyres. As has been stated lower is better, less chance of a roll over. All I was saying is that 4inch cant be done with no rubbing without heaps of guard chopping.

Post by **Chucky** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:00 am

Is there any way possible to get this legal?

Post by **crankycruiser** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:43 pm

Chucky wrote:Is there any way possible to get this legal?

legal would be 2 and 2... dont reckon they would pass the tyres tho

Post by **tuff_89zook** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:10 pm

i will be talking to an engineer within the next few weeks and i will only run what he says i can but just wondering how the big white fridge runs 8" coils and 2" bl and handles the tuff truck tracks cause thats the sorta stuff i like to wheel

Post by **crankycruiser** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:41 pm

tuff_89zook wrote:i will be talking to an engineer within the next few weeks and i will only run what he says i can but just wondering how the big white fridge runs 8" coils and 2" bl and handles the tuff truck tracks cause thats the sorta stuff i like to wheel

well the engineer will laugh at u as soon as u mention 7" spring 2" spacers and 3" body!

Post by **Barno111** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:44 pm

zook just check out this! best 80 i have seen in ages! http://www.lcool.org/forum/viewtopic.ph ... ight=rooby

Post by **80's_delirious** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:08 pm

Barno111 wrote:zook just check out this! best 80 i have seen in ages! http://www.lcool.org/forum/viewtopic.ph ... ight=rooby

the 80 in this link has 3" spring lift no body lift, modified bumpstops and runs 37" tyres (you have to register to see it)
it is a very well set up truck.

oh yeah, Im sure you'll find that all the Tuff truck rigs are 100%legal and 100%safe on the road too

Post by **Silverfish** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:32 pm

engineers Aussie wide will laugh at what you are planning to do...Sounds good in therie to have all that hight, but the guys are right...

I run 4" spring and have never had a problem with scrubbing unless I have intentionally maxxed out the flex.

The laws are under review Aussie wide, and the word is that they are talking about limiting our tyre sizes to 15% greater than recommended, and that a maximum of 50mm (2") of suspension lift.

Most of us will be deep in the poo if this passes, cause it will be legal for them to defect us without pulling us up for it.....The Spooners with their doof doof machines and pee shooter exhausts will have more legal rights than those of us who are using our vehicles for daily drivers and recreation and escaping into the country that we all love.....

Post by **thrashlux** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:35 pm

the lower the better

CUT THE GUARDS

Post by **AngryElmo** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:50 am

3" spring lift and 2" body will do it with no scrubbing, depends on how wide the tyres are.i run 2" lift with no body lify and i can run 35x11.5 with no scrubbing on full flex, so if u did 2 and 2 it would fit but need thin tyres. its all about full flex on lock......... i wouldnt go abouve 4" spring lift i i where u, to unstable.

Post by **g35me** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:27 pm

Cranky is correct. I am going to retract my statement that 6inches is a minimum for 37inch tyres. I have been doing some searching and found multiple people running 37's on 3-4inchs of lift. With 8inch wide wheels on full flex the tyre goes up inside the guard however as I am running 10inch wide wheels it is just that little bit too wide and wont lift inside the guards without fowling.

Post by **4runner2.8** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:35 pm

3 or 4" of lift and 2" bump stop spacers. may need longer front arms to stop them scrubbing on the front. But if you go the 2plus 2 option it will solve that problem.

Post by **stilivn** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:57 pm

Mate best bet, if your after clearance, do a 4" lift but get 6" shocks an 2" coil spacers, less hight on coils will make it more stable. Just make sure you also get the castor plates not bushes to suit the 6".

Add 2" of body and recess the tank up the extra 2". A bash plate for tank to save it on big rocks an to sort out the water thing a snorkel, slow pace an some wd40 will be your friend. As said before but getting it engineered will be an issue. you will need sway bar ext and disconnects but.

The bbm 80 had 40" tires on a 4" with some chopping.

Pretty sure big fridge isnt road legal. ive been in an 80 with 8" coils an its not worth it.

Post by **80diesel4play** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:23 pm

g35me wrote:On 37's a 4 inch lift is no good unless you are chopping your guards. 6 inch lift will work but will also require slight guard lippinng on the rear including slightly cutting the rear flares at the top. The front will need the inner guard on the outer most section bent in and also at the front make sure your wrap around wings on the bullbar dont hit as well. I am still waiting to see someone run 4 inches with no guard chop with 37's and have no rubbing. Sorry Cranky I just cant see it happening.

Hmmm, I ran 37 maxxi's kreppys with no scrubbing on standard sunnies, 3" coils and 2" body lift. Brand new tyres and no issues.

I saw and ran it - so it's been happening!

Tonguing to catch up and suss your chop and twin turb's setup - very nice(watching the mudrhino build up).

mates run 4" coils and have no issues with scrubbing with 36" pedes...

Post by **g35me** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:55 pm

80diesel4play wrote:
g35me wrote:On 37's a 4 inch lift is no good unless you are chopping your guards. 6 inch lift will work but will also require slight guard lippinng on the rear including slightly cutting the rear flares at the top. The front will need the inner guard on the outer most section bent in and also at the front make sure your wrap around wings on the bullbar dont hit as well. I am still waiting to see someone run 4 inches with no guard chop with 37's and have no rubbing. Sorry Cranky I just cant see it happening.
Hmmm, I ran 37 maxxi's kreppys with no scrubbing on standard sunnies, 3" coils and 2" body lift. Brand new tyres and no issues.

I saw and ran it - so it's been happening!

Tonguing to catch up and suss your chop and twin turb's setup - very nice(watching the mudrhino build up).

mates run 4" coils and have no issues with scrubbing with 36" pedes...

Look 4 posts above.......

Post by **Z()LTAN** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:49 pm

its all depends on the rim offset mate and the width of the rim.

There is no way a 2+2 and 37's will work if the 37 is mounted on a 15" 10" rim and has 5.5" of backspace.... Wont even fit on a 2body and 3-4" spring without a guard chop... Or do you people extend your bump stops 3" for a 3" spring lift?

Post by **80diesel4play** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:59 am

g35me wrote:
80diesel4play wrote:
g35me wrote:On 37's a 4 inch lift is no good unless you are chopping your guards. 6 inch lift will work but will also require slight guard lippinng on the rear including slightly cutting the rear flares at the top. The front will need the inner guard on the outer most section bent in and also at the front make sure your wrap around wings on the bullbar dont hit as well. I am still waiting to see someone run 4 inches with no guard chop with 37's and have no rubbing. Sorry Cranky I just cant see it happening.
Hmmm, I ran 37 maxxi's kreppys with no scrubbing on standard sunnies, 3" coils and 2" body lift. Brand new tyres and no issues.

I saw and ran it - so it's been happening!

Tonguing to catch up and suss your chop and twin turb's setup - very nice(watching the mudrhino build up).

mates run 4" coils and have no issues with scrubbing with 36" pedes...
Look 4 posts above.......

I did after i posted.. stoopid...

Hmmm. offset the key!

Post by **g35me** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:11 pm

Z()LTAN wrote:its all depends on the rim offset mate and the width of the rim.

There is no way a 2+2 and 37's will work if the 37 is mounted on a 15" 10" rim and has 5.5" of backspace.... Wont even fit on a 2body and 3-4" spring without a guard chop... Or do you people extend your bump stops 3" for a 3" spring lift?

All it needs is a bit of bashing, no actual chopping is required.

Post by **bushwalker** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:27 pm

so with a 80 you need to keep your rim offset in i was thinking of running a 4in lift with 35s on 16x10 rims sounds like i should be running 16x8 rims to clear gaurds any ideas

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