Holden 253 conversion for 85 lux

Post by **one_waz** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:58 pm

who has done it and how much was it? thinkin i might keep the Hilux G52 box otherwise havta be a trimatic? how hard is it to do? anyone have any pics? will all be done by myself at home.

much appriciated
Waz

Post by **joeblow** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:05 pm

there is some really good tech here.

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Post by **crankycruiser** » Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:26 pm

if ya wanna use it near water dont bother...

Post by **one_waz** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:41 am

tried search but didnt get very far. are they that bad around water??

Post by **leehamescort** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:03 am

crankycruiser wrote:if ya wanna use it near water dont bother...

No problems near water, good set of leads and electronic ignition dizzy and it'll run under water no probs. Mine loves swimming well over the bonnet and doesn't even miss. Did over 50 river crossings last winter up in the high country along crooked river and wonangatta without an issue.

Wouldnt bother with the G52 box though as it will let you down. upgrade to the R series if you want to stay manual and trouble free.

mine is in a LN130 surf but would be similar. was a very easy conversion. hardest part is sourcing the right harmonic balancer to get all the belts nice and tight to the motor so there is still room for an engine fan to keep it cool.

catcha
Leeham

Post by **one_waz** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:41 am

hey leeham, thanks for that, whats the retail on an R series box? any chance of some photos? how well does the 253 power go in the surf?

Post by **leehamescort** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:19 pm

I just paid $1000 for a R series box with 40,000kms on it supposedly but you can usually get them around $400 or less with more kms on them.

I had a 253 originally and it went well but have put a 308 in the surf now, the 253 sounded awesome and went really well, I picked the 308 up cheap so put it in as it bolted straight in but didn't really need to change. The 308 has a bit more torque down low but otherwise not much different.

A mate of mine has a 253 in his dual cab lux and it goes awesome, been in it for about 4 years now without a hitch.

I run a holley truck avenger carby, thrsty but not 4wding issues.
Originally ran the rochester 4bbr but it used to cough when you hit a big bump or washout.
Running gas solves all 4wding running issues other than lack of fuel availability in the high country.

catcha
leeham

Post by **madjimmy** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:46 pm

WAZ , let me know if you want to sell the G52 box .???

cheers jimmy.

Post by **one_waz** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:21 pm

ok mate, but it probably wont be for a while

Post by **madjimmy** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:03 am

no problem mate, the box in my 3.8 4runner had a lot of metel on the drain plug so time to start looking for a replacement .

good luck on your build and do a lot of reading and ask a lot of questons to save yourself time and money.

cheers jimmy.

Post by **-Nemesis-** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:34 am

madjimmy wrote:no problem mate, the box in my 3.8 4runner had a lot of metel on the drain plug so time to start looking for a replacement .

You'll only be putting your finger back in the plug socket again so to speak. G52's have a glass jaw. It's not cheap, but as mentioned if you want a bombproof box go R150/151 etc (from V6 4Runners or TD Surfs)

Post by **madjimmy** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:33 am

dont i need a diffrent bell housing slave cyl and then %%%%%% for gearbox

Post by **-Nemesis-** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:40 am

yeah thats why i mentioned more expensive, to set up.

Post by **madjimmy** » Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:14 pm

I have only just got the runner with a blown motor , then another motor and parts,oil then fly wheel parts for auto to man gearbox than some diff ratios ... all within 3weeks.

only a poor coal miner thats 4wd mad with 2 builds on the go

Post by **-Nemesis-** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:13 am

If you're cashed up a bit then I'd say look into it before you swap to the G52, sell the bellhousing for the G52 and buy a kit to suit an R150 etc...

You won't break an R series with the V6, you will break a G52 with the V6

Only other downside is the R series have a chain transfer, you'd need an adapter to run the hilux gear driven version if you want reduction gears...

Post by **madjimmy** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:43 am

nemesis,

how strong is the transfer case ??? .

I don,t need to run reduction gears in this truck just get my to and from the mine and tow the 4.5m boat and car trailer.

trying to put the good stuff in my 45 build.

cheers jimmy.

Post by **leehamescort** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:53 am

If you dont need massive reduction , the chaindrive transfer already has a lower ratio than the gear driven transfer which may be sufficent.

I think the chain drive is 2.6 reduction compared to 2.1 in the gear driver (better check them though as I'm only going off memory)

cheers
leeham

Post by **madjimmy** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:22 am

thats good 2.6 reduction should be better on the hiway with 4.3 ratio diffs dont you think.???????????

cheers jimmy.

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