Notice: We request that you don't just set up a new account at this time if you are a previous user.
If you used to be one of our moderators, please feel free to reach out to Chris via the facebook Outerlimits4x4 group and he will get you set back up with access should he need you.
Recovery:If you cannot access your old email address and don't remember your password, please click here to log a change of email address so you can do a password reset.

Noisey rear diff....62 series

Tech Talk for Cruiser owners.

Moderators: toaddog, Elmo, DUDELUX

Post Reply
Posts: 51
Joined: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:58 am
Location: East Lake Macqarie

Noisey rear diff....62 series

Post by rattlinjack »

I want to fix the hum in the bum :roll:
Leaking oil at input shaft seal, so I'm assuming this is where the noise is coming from...
Coupla Questions.............

Can you buy a bearing and seal kit for this job?
Do you have to take the diff centre out to be able to get the correct torque on assembly?
What is the best way to get the bearing out, or will I have to get the special tool for the job?
Would it be easier to just get hold of another diff centre :?
Ban the Whale..................
Save the bombs...............
Posts: 6021
Joined: Sat Feb 15, 2003 11:01 pm
Location: Shed.

Re: Noisey rear diff....62 series

Post by dumbdunce »

rattlinjack wrote:I want to fix the hum in the bum :roll:
Leaking oil at input shaft seal, so I'm assuming this is where the noise is coming from...
Coupla Questions.............

Can you buy a bearing and seal kit for this job?
Do you have to take the diff centre out to be able to get the correct torque on assembly?
What is the best way to get the bearing out, or will I have to get the special tool for the job?
Would it be easier to just get hold of another diff centre :?
most definitely your easiest option is to find another centre and swap it in. a second hand open 60 series diff in decent condition should cost around $250 - $300, a limited slip one maybe $400 - $450. if you put an ad in the wanted section you should come up with something fairly quickly.

if yours has been humming for a while there is a very good chance that not only are the bearings stuffed but the gears are also damaged - in which case the parts cost alone to refurbish your diff will exceed $700.
diff rebuilding is not something the average or even above average home mechanic can tackle, there are special tools and skills required, and the cost of the tools and the acquiring of the required skill will exceed the cost of repairing one or two or five diffs.

sorry this doesn't specifically answer your questions in order but should give you an idea.

if you really want to have a crack at it yourself, I can give more information.

cheers
DD
Free air locker to the first 20 callers!
Posts: 51
Joined: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:58 am
Location: East Lake Macqarie

Post by rattlinjack »

Whew, thanks dumbdunce!
So it's not just a bearing noise then?
Looks like I'll have to post in the wanted section!
Will there be any things to watch out for when bolting up another diff centre?
Ban the Whale..................
Save the bombs...............
Posts: 764
Joined: Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:59 pm
Location: STOCKTON NSW

Post by lokka »

rattlinjack wrote:Whew, thanks dumbdunce!
So it's not just a bearing noise then?
Looks like I'll have to post in the wanted section!
Will there be any things to watch out for when bolting up another diff centre?
Yep dont drop tha farker on ya self there bloody heavy :D :D

Yep i aggree with DD find a good second hand one as there a dime a dozzen sorta :D :D
Cheers

Chris

Questions $20ea Answers for said Questions $100ea
I can fix your F'ups for a fee .......
Posts: 1443
Joined: Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:23 pm
Location: Probably driving a dozer

Post by Wozza244 »

I have a perfect centre for you here, ready to roll, $200, top condition no leaks an no hummmm in the bummmmm :lol:
Couldnt tell ya if it was L/Slip or not but it was ok before i whacked the Lokka centre in.

where ya at again?
Wozza
Get out there!!
Posts: 6021
Joined: Sat Feb 15, 2003 11:01 pm
Location: Shed.

Post by dumbdunce »

rattlinjack wrote:Whew, thanks dumbdunce!
So it's not just a bearing noise then?
Looks like I'll have to post in the wanted section!
Will there be any things to watch out for when bolting up another diff centre?
if the bearings are on the way out, most of the noise will come from the misalignment of the gears caused by excessive clearance in the bearings. if the gears have been misaligned for some time they will wear prematurely and will not set up correctly once new bearings are installed.

the hardest part of replacing a diff on a landcruiser is probably removing the cone washers that hold the axle in. the only other tricky bis is that it is heavy and it s a good idea to have some help to maneuver the diff out and in.
Free air locker to the first 20 callers!
Posts: 1443
Joined: Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:23 pm
Location: Probably driving a dozer

Post by Wozza244 »

dumbdunce wrote:the hardest part of replacing a diff on a landcruiser is probably removing the cone washers that hold the axle in.
the only other tricky bis is that it is heavy and it s a good idea to have some help to maneuver the diff out and in.
Tap the studs with a medium ball pein and punch, they will pop out.

And, as for getting the diff in and out, a teaspoon of cement DD?? :rofl:
Get out there!!
Posts: 51
Joined: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:58 am
Location: East Lake Macqarie

Post by rattlinjack »

Wozza244 wrote:I have a perfect centre for you here, ready to roll, $200, top condition no leaks an no hummmm in the bummmmm :lol:
Couldnt tell ya if it was L/Slip or not but it was ok before i whacked the Lokka centre in.

where ya at again?
Wozza
PM sent Wozza244!!!!!!
Ban the Whale..................
Save the bombs...............
Posts: 6021
Joined: Sat Feb 15, 2003 11:01 pm
Location: Shed.

Post by dumbdunce »

Wozza244 wrote:
dumbdunce wrote:the hardest part of replacing a diff on a landcruiser is probably removing the cone washers that hold the axle in.
the only other tricky bis is that it is heavy and it s a good idea to have some help to maneuver the diff out and in.
Tap the studs with a medium ball pein and punch, they will pop out.

And, as for getting the diff in and out, a teaspoon of cement DD?? :rofl:
there are blokes who can safely lift a diff in and out, and there are some who can't - if you have never done one before it's far better to err on the side of caution - it's awkward and heavy enough to cause serious injury - muscle strains, hernias, nasty cuts, fingers off, even a broken rib or skull fracture if you manage to get yourself underneath - for some of us its no big deal to lift them in and out all day, but there is a serious potential hazard and it deserves to be shown due respect.
Free air locker to the first 20 callers!
Posts: 1443
Joined: Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:23 pm
Location: Probably driving a dozer

Post by Wozza244 »

Yeah DD i know wat ya mean, it aint an easy task and yeh have jammed fingers and stuff doin them!!
Get out there!!
Posts: 51
Joined: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:58 am
Location: East Lake Macqarie

Post by rattlinjack »

dumbdunce wrote:
Wozza244 wrote:
dumbdunce wrote:the hardest part of replacing a diff on a landcruiser is probably removing the cone washers that hold the axle in.
the only other tricky bis is that it is heavy and it s a good idea to have some help to maneuver the diff out and in.
Tap the studs with a medium ball pein and punch, they will pop out.

And, as for getting the diff in and out, a teaspoon of cement DD?? :rofl:
there are blokes who can safely lift a diff in and out, and there are some who can't - if you have never done one before it's far better to err on the side of caution - it's awkward and heavy enough to cause serious injury - muscle strains, hernias, nasty cuts, fingers off, even a broken rib or skull fracture if you manage to get yourself underneath - for some of us its no big deal to lift them in and out all day, but there is a serious potential hazard and it deserves to be shown due respect.
I've had to lift a coupla gearboxes in by my self over the years, won't ever do it again, not even with a teaspoon of cement :D No trolley jacks in those days! But you are still scaring me, dumbdunce... :cry:
Ban the Whale..................
Save the bombs...............
Posts: 6021
Joined: Sat Feb 15, 2003 11:01 pm
Location: Shed.

Post by dumbdunce »

rattlinjack wrote: I've had to lift a coupla gearboxes in by my self over the years, won't ever do it again, not even with a teaspoon of cement :D No trolley jacks in those days! But you are still scaring me, dumbdunce... :cry:
don't be scared, just be careful :)
Free air locker to the first 20 callers!
Posts: 2254
Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2002 5:09 pm
Location: Sydney

Post by jessie928 »

the LC centre is not that heavy

if it was a nissan h260 rear then it would be pertinent to scare him :)

Jes
ATTACH BROKEN TOYOTA HERE--->
DUCATI <-----Worlds best warning label
Posts: 1109
Joined: Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:48 pm
Location: Australia

Post by hulsty »

I weighed up a open 2 pinion centre the other day, about 27kg they are.
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests