Tyre Topic - Maxxis Creepy Crawler

[maxtrax]

I have sold several maxxis creewlers and mudzillas a hand full of trepadors.

the mudzillas are no good......
the early creepys where crape to (manufacturing) but these days are in my eyes the 2ND best tyre on the market. If you judged a mtr v's a bfg that is what you get. A great tyre that will bend twist and hug the terrain and grip to it as well. They are designed as rock tyres so are a softer compound and at correct pressure for vehicle and balanced you get 40k 50k of a set (i have experienced this) there only down fall is in mud there knobblies will bend therefore not as good as boggers / simex (85%). But this is far out weighted buy there Superior performance on rocks, wood, dirt, gravel etc.

The best tyre on the market is a sticky but solely for off road use only as on my ex rocky i could not drive over 70 klm but i did have 40's and internal bead locks.

[SIM79]

5psi in the Creepies

[11_evl]

Second best tyre known to man!

completely agree,

best tyre in all conditions bar mud.

too heavy for small vehicles and should be run on wider rims i.e. 12.5" wide tyres should be on 10" wide rims.

ride better on the road, sand, rock, gravel, trees, roots, etc then simex, swamper tsl, or boggers.

but only marginally better in mud than your average radial mud terrain in mud.

is this true?
and not recomended for a sierra??
will have beadlocks so i can lower pressure

[SIM79]

Second best tyre known to man!

completely agree,

best tyre in all conditions bar mud.

too heavy for small vehicles and should be run on wider rims i.e. 12.5" wide tyres should be on 10" wide rims.

ride better on the road, sand, rock, gravel, trees, roots, etc then simex, swamper tsl, or boggers.

but only marginally better in mud than your average radial mud terrain in mud.

is this true?
and not recomended for a sierra??
will have beadlocks so i can lower pressure

Below is pic from the first page and it show the tyre at 4.5 psi and the rock crawler/ buggy weight was a little over 1T. How much does sierra weigh?

[GRIMACE]

Personally I say they will be fine under a suzuki, you could comfortably run them below 6psi offroad without beadlocks.

They are fine on a 8" rim (i actually prefer them) and the crown is nuthing to worry about, just dont go running rediculous pressures.

I now run 26psi onroad (my rangie weights about 2400)
In a zuk I would run between 15-20psi depending on the ride you prefer and your driving style.

[76patrol]

ilove my creepies. i run 37x14.5 on 15x10s. i have done a bit of highway and found them to be awsome after that. but i used my friends 37x12.5 on 16x8s for a photo shoot. they hadnt been run for more than 200ks. and they downright sucked. lol after a bit of daily use they seemed better though. i will be a creepy customer for a long time to come i thinkl. i also run 35x12.5 treps as a daily tyre and while i love them the creepies are better off road. they perform better than the other tyres ive run. simex, claws, boggers and the treps. spend up and enjoy. oh yeah i run these in a patrol ute.

[Wambat]

am curious with what you guys are saying about them in mud, as all the plus could out weigh that, i will be looking for a set of bias, off road tyres in the near future, and i was going to go either boggers or simex, so if the creapies are as good as people are saying they are on everything but mud, i could be interested i suppose, but i do like driving mud, and so obviously want something that can handle that well, but i want something that is going to handle everything else i throw at it too as i like driving what ever i point the car at.

i may just think about them now, after reading this,

i am itching to say something the i "heard" well it was something i read on here years ago about them, but don't wanna get in trouble lol

[pinkfloyddsotm]

Personally I say they will be fine under a suzuki, you could comfortably run them below 6psi offroad without beadlocks.

They are fine on a 8" rim (i actually prefer them) and the crown is nuthing to worry about, just dont go running rediculous pressures.

I now run 26psi onroad (my rangie weights about 2400)
In a zuk I would run between 15-20psi depending on the ride you prefer and your driving style.

how have you found them in sand ? i run my STT's on 26psi on road aswell lol, and what about on road ?

ilove my creepies. i run 37x14.5 on 15x10s. i have done a bit of highway and found them to be awsome after that. but i used my friends 37x12.5 on 16x8s for a photo shoot. they hadnt been run for more than 200ks. and they downright sucked. lol after a bit of daily use they seemed better though. i will be a creepy customer for a long time to come i thinkl. i also run 35x12.5 treps as a daily tyre and while i love them the creepies are better off road. they perform better than the other tyres ive run. simex, claws, boggers and the treps. spend up and enjoy. oh yeah i run these in a patrol ute.

this patrol wouldnt be in perth would it ?

[Weiner]

am curious with what you guys are saying about them in mud, as all the plus could out weigh that, i will be looking for a set of bias, off road tyres in the near future, and i was going to go either boggers or simex, so if the creapies are as good as people are saying they are on everything but mud, i could be interested i suppose, but i do like driving mud, and so obviously want something that can handle that well, but i want something that is going to handle everything else i throw at it too as i like driving what ever i point the car at.

i may just think about them now, after reading this,

i am itching to say something the i "heard" well it was something i read on here years ago about them, but don't wanna get in trouble lol

My creepys are awesome in mud, and good on road too, I'd get them over boggers anyday, and depending on how much road km's you do I'd pick them over Simex.

[biggsy]

I got my maxxis shoes about 4-5 year ago. A 4x4 rally driver talked them up to me and I have tried most other's. Im glade there getting more popular because there in stock more and don't have to wait as long. But Im not glade in a way because now they are popular the price has doubled.

I wont ever change to another.

[GRIMACE]

how have you found them in sand ? i run my STT's on 26psi on road aswell lol, and what about on road ?

I have had them at fraser once and up at rainbow once, also taken them to north straddie a few times.

Only failed me once when trying to climb a washout about 1300mm high.
It had a wet base and the rear wheels sunk. Climbed a similar scenario but dry 1m bank of sand without any dramas.

They float well at speed and drove in and out of the sand ruts fairly easily.

I tried to get the car stuck at fraser but couldn't. Another time at rainbow I dug two holes and drove the car in and got the opposing wheels spining to get the car to sink even further. It was fairly cross axled and to be honest I didnt think it would get out of there with out a snatch (hahah i said snatch). I engaged the rear locker and reversed out with out drama.

All in all, I loved the creepys on sand, just don't drop the pressures to low for safety and bead retention. I run about 12psi on sand.

[pinkfloyddsotm]

how have you found them in sand ? i run my STT's on 26psi on road aswell lol, and what about on road ?

I have had them at fraser once and up at rainbow once, also taken them to north straddie a few times.

Only failed me once when trying to climb a washout about 1300mm high.
It had a wet base and the rear wheels sunk. Climbed a similar scenario but dry 1m bank of sand without any dramas.

They float well at speed and drove in and out of the sand ruts fairly easily.

I tried to get the car stuck at fraser but couldn't. Another time at rainbow I dug two holes and drove the car in and got the opposing wheels spining to get the car to sink even further. It was fairly cross axled and to be honest I didnt think it would get out of there with out a snatch (hahah i said snatch). I engaged the rear locker and reversed out with out drama.

All in all, I loved the creepys on sand, just don't drop the pressures to low for safety and bead retention. I run about 12psi on sand.

yer awesome dude, reason i ask is, where i am is right on the beach and is primarily sand, but want some decent muddies for when i do take it on some harder tracks where mud and rock exists .

[mike_nofx]

Just got my set delivered today 35x12.5 16"

Incase anyone is wondering where to get them, Talk to Ryano from this forum.

Definately the cheapest price, even with interstate shipping. He is located in QLD and i had them delivered to NSW in 3 days.

Will have a review on them once i fit them up!

Mike

[Turoa]

I currently run them on my hilux, and while I have found them to be good so far, I went out with a couple of mates who are running irocs. The irocs shit all over the creepys in the stuff we were doing (loose rocky type shit and clay dirt etc). You could see where I was not getting any traction, the irocs were just gripping with no problems.

I would buy a set but no $$$ atm but I might try on the set of trepadors Ive got floating around

[NutterGQ]

I currently run them on my hilux, and while I have found them to be good so far, I went out with a couple of mates who are running irocs. The irocs shit all over the creepys in the stuff we were doing (loose rocky type shit and clay dirt etc). You could see where I was not getting any traction, the irocs were just gripping with no problems.

I would buy a set but no $$$ atm but I might try on the set of trepadors Ive got floating around

There's a reason why these threads have a recomendation not to compare to a mates car and use only your own. I have seen one of our groups 100% stock discovery on highway terrains drive straight over a tricky bit I had bumped and bounced on for 2 minutes prior...why,,, he is shorter, narrower, different weight, different LSD and possibly another 100 variables.

[Micka]

I currently run them on my hilux, and while I have found them to be good so far, I went out with a couple of mates who are running irocs. The irocs shit all over the creepys in the stuff we were doing (loose rocky type shit and clay dirt etc). You could see where I was not getting any traction, the irocs were just gripping with no problems.

I would buy a set but no $$$ atm but I might try on the set of trepadors Ive got floating around

There's a reason why these threads have a recomendation not to compare to a mates car and use only your own. I have seen one of our groups 100% stock discovery on highway terrains drive straight over a tricky bit I had bumped and bounced on for 2 minutes prior...why,,, he is shorter, narrower, different weight, different LSD and possibly another 100 variables.

No LSDs in any Discos...but I agree with the point that you are making. Even the same rig on the same tyres on the same track will perform differently. All comes down to experience and performance on the day.

[-Scott-]

There's a reason why these threads have a recomendation not to compare to a mates car and use only your own.

Although I agree with your point, the primary motive behind the recommendation is to avoid propagating "mate's uncle's partner's dog's previous owner said..." type stories. This is how myths begin.

For this reason, an "I saw" story is probably a reliable report, but "mate said" is where the "evidence" starts to become questionable.

I agree with your example: comparing the performance of different tyres on different vehicles is difficult, because of all the variables involved. It's fine to report what happened - but there will be fewer arguments if we leave members to draw their own conclusions.

[hiy6o]

Got a twin locked GQ has mechanical beadlocked rims , use them at 8-10 psi for general stuff . best tyre I've had yet (had et2's , jt's ) not as good in mud but the best in the rest. will be buying another set next time.

[NutterGQ]

I guess I may as well put my bit in too, I run these in a 37x12.5x16 on 16x10 rims so far they are very good on the rock, shale, mud, swamp/slosh and snow I have used them in, only thing I haven't tried yet is a direct comparison in clay against my mates identical GQ on simex ET2's but so far they stay clean and power through with very little spinning, Now in terms of how do they stack up against previous tyres used, I have had Cooper STT 35's, BFG AT 35's, overlanders, kumhos, hankooks and various others and none come even close except the simex.

Id like to say these are better but until I do a few more tracks with my mates car still on simex I wont be able to say for certain, but on the road wet or dry they seem to hold on better than the coopers and are comparable to the BFG's, they are noisy like most aggressive tyres are, in terms of wear I have no idea i burn them up pretty quick so I couldnt say accurately. I'm going out again this Sunday to neerim so we should get a mud work out and see what happens, oddly they balance up better than any tyre Ive had, they take a lot of weight but my coopers and bfgs no matter what would not balance perfect...these do, so far very happy.



This track i got further than my mates twin locked 60 series on 35 inch ET2s, But i do have a power advantage.

[mike_nofx]

What pressures do people run on road?
And how many kms should be expected out of a set?

Now before anyone replies "these are not road tyres" I KNOW!

I have a dedicated road set, and will use the creepys off-road. BUT most tracks around here have approx 1.5hr minimum on road each way. So yes they will get their fair share of tar work also.

Mike

[NutterGQ]

I run 26 psi on road, that allows the tyre to sit flat on the road and not heat up badly.

[Weiner]

23-25psi, makes a softer ride in a hilux

[Micka]

I run mine at 25psi on-road on my Rangie.

[NutterGQ]

Its good to see guys in here who know how to set tyre pressures, I cant get over tyre shops setting anything 4X4 at 40+ psi, as if a 1.5 ton hilux on stock highway terrains and a 3 ton 60 series both need the same pressure to get the contact patch you need. I had a "discussion" once with a tyre guy who whacked 40 in mine, and then said to me that they would wear fine...when i said explain why only 4 inches in the centre of my 12.5 inch tyre was contacting the road and the outisides where not...he looked at me with a blank stare as if to say "I have no idea".

When i explained they where crowing due to excess pressure for vehicle weight he answered "ahhh in 20 years doing this Ive always done them to 40, their all fine".....good for him as you keep coming back with tyres chewing out the middles gggrrrrrr why are people called experts in their field!!!, to this day he still does 40 in all 4x4's.


When i had my creepys installed on the rims (16x10rims, 37x12.5x16 creepys) they guy pumped em up so much i had to stop him as they where rounding on top like a fruckin balloon, when he said whats wrong i said what are you putting in them 40? he replied 45.....i said pull the valve and go 26 which he refused until the boss came out and saw them looking like balloons and told him to let them out.......so many people have no idea!

Anyway as you can probably tell its a long time frustration for me rant over.

[mike_nofx]

^^ On the side of the tyre they say max 30psi.
It also says not to exceed 35psi to seat bead.

I will inform the tyre bloke not to exceed 35psi.

Besides, real 4x4s will only last till the weekend (or sooner) on tyre shop pressures!

[NutterGQ]

^^ On the side of the tyre they say max 30psi.
It also says not to exceed 35psi to seat bead.

I will inform the tyre bloke not to exceed 35psi.

Besides, real 4x4s will only last till the weekend (or sooner) on tyre shop pressures!

I mentioned that....that's when I got the boss man.

[maxtrax]

When i purchased my first stock creepy's 2004 for the shop from Melbourne, they "tyre experts" showed me the mudzilla and the creepy at 40 - 45 psi. They would have had more curve than a good titty. I recommend 30 ish on road for a patrol / cruiser (2300kg)and 25 ish on hilux / defender (1600 kg) and about 18-20 on a suk although this is still to high for a suk but any lower you start to find issues with beads and excessive tyre roll under these pressures at road speeds.

A quick gage to the right pressure, if you can see three or four shoulder lugs (100mm) touching the ground this would be a desirable pressure for the tyre you have fitted to the car you have.

The best way I have found to balance heavy 4x4 tyres is by using truck balance powder or sand as known to tyre shops. This product is continually moving around inside the tyre to mantain balance. The biggest advantage is if you move a bead during low pressure use ,when you re-inflate your tyre it moves to where needed. The down side is with out bead locks you will loose powder when your bead pops. If you are using pressures less than 8 psi in these tyres with out bead locks try to use tubes.

[GRIMACE]

If you are using pressures less than 8 psi in these tyres with out bead locks try to use tubes.

Standard tubes will surely get pinched and ruined anyways???

I'd say get beadlocks or dont drop em so low... then again I am happy to run 5psi unlocked in the rangie, just have to drive accordingly (or not).

[nottie]

I am happy to run 5psi unlocked in the rangie, just have to drive accordingly (or not).

Sais he who left an untested set of stauns drop his tires low enough to leave a side wall pattern on the ground
As said earlier concerning running them to low on the road. I disagree. The hotter they get the better as it softens them for offroad.

[SIM79]

As said earlier concerning running them to low on the road. I disagree. The hotter they get the better as it softens them for offroad.

Your running a huge risk as they will explode if they get too hot.