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THE "silly" question thread

Tech Talk for Suzuki owners.

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Post by ZUKPOWER »

smileysmoke wrote:whats the best way to remove a steering box.. do you have to remove the radiator? or undo the tierod and then lift it up and out? got it unbolted but cant see which way to go.. :S
have you removed the tierod yet? if not i'd bolt the box back in tight and remove the tie rod first as they can get pretty well stuck. I stuck a solid piece of rod down through my engine bay to the top of the tie rod and stood on my bull bar and hit the pr1ck with a sledge hammer to get mine off :rofl:
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Post by smileysmoke »

ah nice sounds like a plan :) sweet.
yeh going to get a tierod remover as i will probably use it again in future. once you got that undone did you pull it up and out or drop it?
just feels like it is getting stopped by the radiator bracket
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Post by ZUKPOWER »

smileysmoke wrote:ah nice sounds like a plan :) sweet.
yeh going to get a tierod remover as i will probably use it again in future. once you got that undone did you pull it up and out or drop it?
just feels like it is getting stopped by the radiator bracket
im not sure sorry mate, i think i may have had my radiator out at the time which made it easier. I'd be inclined to think down would be the easiest way as once the tie rods off there isn't anything in the way (from memory)
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Post by BouNCE »

Can I fit 15x8 Sunnies to my NT Sierra without to much hassle?
Or am i best to get the 15x7s?

Will only be running a 30" or 31" tyres for the moment...
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Post by lay80n »

BouNCE wrote:Can I fit 15x8 Sunnies to my NT Sierra without to much hassle?
Or am i best to get the 15x7s?

Will only be running a 30" or 31" tyres for the moment...

What offset do you want?

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Post by BouNCE »

Layto, thats my issue...

I want a decent offset to make up for the lack of track...
So the local tyre dealer has a 15x7 -13 i think, or a 15x8 -23

I am just worried that if i go the 8" the offset will cause clearance issues on the firewall and other components, not to mention the increased steering weight i suppose...

But I am hoping that with an 8" rim and the 30" tyre my only problem will be covering the exposed tyre... ;)
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Post by GRPABT1 »

ZUKPOWER wrote:
smileysmoke wrote:whats the best way to remove a steering box.. do you have to remove the radiator? or undo the tierod and then lift it up and out? got it unbolted but cant see which way to go.. :S
have you removed the tierod yet? if not i'd bolt the box back in tight and remove the tie rod first as they can get pretty well stuck. I stuck a solid piece of rod down through my engine bay to the top of the tie rod and stood on my bull bar and hit the pr1ck with a sledge hammer to get mine off :rofl:
That is how I stuffed my last steering box and I still ended up needing a tie rod puller, I don't reccomend it.
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Post by ofr57 »

driving the vitara down the highway today and i noticed the temp gauge randomly goes really cold then goes back to normal, but the car seems to run normal :?
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Post by Gwagensteve »

I'd look at the connector on the temp sender. These are notoriously fragile. It might be making poor/intermittent contact.

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Post by ofr57 »

Gwagensteve wrote:I'd look at the connector on the temp sender. These are notoriously fragile. It might be making poor/intermittent contact.

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Post by ZUKPOWER »

GRPABT1 wrote:
ZUKPOWER wrote:
smileysmoke wrote:whats the best way to remove a steering box.. do you have to remove the radiator? or undo the tierod and then lift it up and out? got it unbolted but cant see which way to go.. :S
have you removed the tierod yet? if not i'd bolt the box back in tight and remove the tie rod first as they can get pretty well stuck. I stuck a solid piece of rod down through my engine bay to the top of the tie rod and stood on my bull bar and hit the pr1ck with a sledge hammer to get mine off :rofl:
That is how I stuffed my last steering box and I still ended up needing a tie rod puller, I don't reccomend it.
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Post by Remydog05 »

When doing a GTI conversion do you have to do the VSS swap as per Baleno/Vit/Jimny?
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Post by Gwagensteve »

I'd say so, if for no other reason than normally if the VSS is missing the ECU will throw a check engine light after the engine has been on load for some time.

Check engine light lit = no engineer pass, and is dumb anyway because it will mask "real" faults.

I've not done a GTi conversion myself, but that's been the case with the other suzuki EFI conversions I've been involved with. I have no reason to assume the GTi is different.

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Post by gomulletgo »

Can someone please tell me where the bell / alarm / buzzer / chimer is that goes off when you go over 100kph or there abouts in a suzuki escudo, I want to disconnect it. Thanks :)
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Post by mr green »

not too sure where to ask but here will do?? :? someone listed suzuki parts in the for sale section a few weeks ago. they lived on the central coast. had phil as part of there username. does anyone know who this is? i want to chase up something they had. pretty vague i know but hopfully somebody knows them.
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Post by 31zook »

what parts are you after
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Post by mr green »

jimny power steering box..... shhh don't tell anyone else on the board or they will all want one :D
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Post by 31zook »

Um ive got all the parts except the box so im wanting of one too... ask for a discount if you buy two ;)
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Post by mr green »

after all the bs prices i was given from wreckers i decided to price a new genuine part.......... $1085 and joe average, off the street price. makes the $1500 i have been quoted from wreckers a bit steep :?
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Post by 31zook »

yeah im tempted to try and buy a trashed jiminy on the cheap and just get what i need out of it then throw it away... some guy offered me a complete set for about $1000...
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Post by ofr57 »

is a sloppy gearbox in a vitara the same to a sierra the little bush at the bottom of the gear stick and the those bolts :?
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Post by lockdup »

Quick question for everyone: I got my zook engineer for everything, however with standard tyres. If i get pulled up with my 34" tyres on what are the conciquences? Also when I present the report to Vicroads will they ask to inspect the vehicle?

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Post by Gwagensteve »

I don't believe there's any reason for vicroads to inspect the vehicle so long as you supply the cert and a RWC if that was required by the engineer.

If you are pinged with the 34's on how much hassle you are in for will depend on the discretion of the Police officer involved.

Best case: nothing at all. You might get the "don't let me see the car again with those tyres on it"

worst case, (assuming you're tyres aren't speed rated, which I have a feeling they aren't ;)) you get a red canary and can't drive the car ANYWHERE - you are walking.

Generally, if you're polite, sober and the car is otherwise legal looking, you might get a "they're a bit big mate" talking to, no canary on the windscreen, and a "notice to fix" for "condition of tyres"

If the police officer is a bit more suspicious of your car, when you get the "notice to fix" the officer will tick the "RWC" box on the bottom of the form. If you are engineered, that's no problem - put the legal tyres back on and get a RWC. A hassle, but no biggie.

*Grimbo voice on* of course, you aren't technically insured in any way ( including TAC) if your tyres aren't speed rated in accrodance with the ADR, hence the reason you are technically liable for a red canary. *Grimbo voice off*

Experience indicates that that's very unlikely, and you'd probably have to do helis around the cop car to make one that angry.

This is based on experience with 34's and bigger in Victoria.

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Post by lockdup »

That was very helpful Steve. No the tyres ar not speed rated, however I will get a cheap set of 31" tyres for the road soon.
The engineers didn't ask to see my RWC. I was under the same impression that if I did get pinged I would just put my standards back on and bobs you uncle. I had this family friend tell me that if i do get caught I would end up in court, 12 prision ect ect. He does however speak sh*t mainly. The car is only driven on weekends out. If it came to a point I was frequently driving it I would put small tyres on.


Also will running 205's with a spring over and 5.12 diffs do any damage, asside from reving hard.
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Post by Gwagensteve »

Basically, there's no structure in Vic for loss of license/ points/fines as part of the defect process AFAIK. I understand this is different in other states.

Obiouvsly, if your deliberately unsafe car was driven in a culpable way and killed someone, then the way you modified your car might not help your case in court.

The process is warning/notice to fix/canary/red canary. That's not punitive, (i.e it's not about punishing the driver, only fixing the problem vehicle or removing it from the road.)

there's no problem with 205'swith your setup, however, your speedo will be out about 40%, which in itself is a worthy of a canary. If you are going to drive it any time/distance with little tyres on it, I'd have spare 3.7 diff in the shed.

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Post by lockdup »

GOt ya Steve. Thanks heaps mate
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Post by lockdup »

Read on. Thanks to steve
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Post by Gwagensteve »

If you have a prang with the 34's on and your car was certed on stock tyres it doesn't matter whether it was certed or not, (if it becomes an issue) you're not insured or legal with the big tyres on.

However, if you are pinged with non certed tyres on, you only have to match the conditions of the cert when you present for a RWC (if required) or vicroads.

I'll express it another way - if you have an engineered car and you get a canary for a blown tailight, the engineering cert still stands, you just have to fix the tail light. In vic, the law doesn't make a distinction between different problems with your car - it requires rectification - you don't go back to scratch once you have a cert, it's considered the new "baseline" for your car.

Hope that makes sense.
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Post by greg »

lockdup wrote:...when I present the report to Vicroads will they ask to inspect the vehicle?
my car was inspected at vic roads to ensure that the new engine number and original chassis number written on the cert forms were correct. you will then be presented with a new registration sticker with the updated numbers on it.
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Post by ofr57 »

is the vitara 5 speed manual and X90 5 speed manual the same

i know the case is the same but I've heard they got differant gearing :?
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