crossover and ruf?

[fiftyfrenzy]

hey every one have been searching but cant really find the info i want

just want to see if anyone has any pics or anything of installing crossover steer mainly the steering box i want to get rite first go.

aswel what combos are everyone using for the ruf spring packs and can i use my standard rears (tinkered with a little) up the front of my solid axle ln65??

[yamaha__308]

Your best bet is to check out a few members threads, its been covered plenty.

Get your box as far forward as possible, use a flat pitman arm to get the draglink away from the tie rod. And check all clearances before welding.

Use the top 3 rears and a couple from the old front pack. Swap and change until you get the height and flex you want. Use an cut down leaf as a spacer on the drivers side pack to rectify the lean.

[jaykabir6489]

if u want i can email u pics of mine. i have ruf with superior crosover arm etc, rides nice and flex's like fu*k, im using a bundy pitman i found it works better in my setup.... but im runnin a commo v6 so if i used a flat pitman it hits my sump......

[fiftyfrenzy]

thanks for the help guys.
a nother thing just poped into my head the other day, can i do ruf with out droped front hangers and just use castor wedges to get my diff back to where it should be has anyone done this??? and if so what castor wedge angle did you need to correct everything and are there any down falls to doing it this way???

[fiftyfrenzy]

thanks for the help guys.
a nother thing just poped into my head the other day, can i do ruf with out droped front hangers and just use castor wedges to get my diff back to where it should be has anyone done this??? and if so what castor wedge angle did you need to correct everything and are there any down falls to doing it this way???

[fiftyfrenzy]

thanks for the help guys.
a nother thing just poped into my head the other day, can i do ruf with out droped front hangers and just use castor wedges to get my diff back to where it should be has anyone done this??? and if so what castor wedge angle did you need to correct everything and are there any down falls to doing it this way???

[Weiner]

thanks for the help guys.
a nother thing just poped into my head the other day, can i do ruf with out droped front hangers and just use castor wedges to get my diff back to where it should be has anyone done this??? and if so what castor wedge angle did you need to correct everything and are there any down falls to doing it this way???

You will have to be careful with clearance with the pitman arm and leaf spring.

Think its +3-5°

The castor plates you need will depend on what setup you go with, will probably need to check once you have done it all.

[Willy Hilux]

I would say that the spring will hit the nut on the bottom of the steering box where the pitman arm is. Otherwise you you can fit large bumpstops and have no up travel.

[fiftyfrenzy]

so really its better if i just use a 50mm dropped hanger??
and if i do this is it likley i will still have to use castor wedges or not????
(i know this will vary a little from set up to set up)

[Willy Hilux]

No. As you are dropping the front by 2" and using 2" extended shackles on the rear of the spring so the cancell each other out. Keeps the castor pretty close to speck.

[jaykabir6489]

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theres some photo's of my lux its got ruf with extended shackles and scrossover steering, ill try to chuck up some closer photo's of the steering, sorry those who asked for photo's of been really busy

[jaykabir6489]

just to get an idea how high it sits

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[fiftyfrenzy]

thanks mate that looks really good ay.
did you do the ruf withoutshock hoops??? or are you just running lifted springs?

[jaykabir6489]

well they are 2 inch springs but are sagged as so more like 1 inch and i'm just running std rear commodore shocks and havent had a problem.

[highersurf]

hey all been racking my brain to figure out wat ruf stands for (i must be the dumbest hilux/surf nut). also been great reading all this tech info as i want to solid swap into in 91 surf i have a front diff out of a 80/81 single cab (with the long manual hubs) would this still be ok to use? i'll be bracing the diff over the front of the pumkin etc. also im looking at 1 to 2 in drop hanger setup across the front under the radiator with weld on under the frame rear shackle set up wat pit man arm can i run off the std pwr steer box? oh and to the bloke who stopped for 20 minutes at pacific pines last wkend so i could pick ur brain on ur set up i cant remember ur name on here or where to look up ur rig. thanks to anyone reading and helping out

[4RUNNER_01]

RUF = Rears Up Front

Rear springs moved to the front cause they're longer and give more flex and set a good shackle angle.

[yamaha__308]

hey all been racking my brain to figure out wat ruf stands for (i must be the dumbest hilux/surf nut). also been great reading all this tech info as i want to solid swap into in 91 surf i have a front diff out of a 80/81 single cab (with the long manual hubs) would this still be ok to use? i'll be bracing the diff over the front of the pumkin etc. also im looking at 1 to 2 in drop hanger setup across the front under the radiator with weld on under the frame rear shackle set up wat pit man arm can i run off the std pwr steer box? oh and to the bloke who stopped for 20 minutes at pacific pines last wkend so i could pick ur brain on ur set up i cant remember ur name on here or where to look up ur rig. thanks to anyone reading and helping out

I would put the shackle through the frame or it'll put your caster up the shit, especially if you're running a longer shackle.

I would also cut off the old steering box mount, move it forward or tilt and brace it, or it'll crack. Use a 80 series, 2wd lux or flat pitman arm. You're going high steer right?

[highersurf]

hi all thanks for the help. yeah im looking into high steer setup for it as the steer rod on the diff i'll be using is bent anyway. was going to run wxtended shackles insted i was looking at the supiour swivel type so i can lock them in on the road. or just get springs with lift in them. its all a slow process and be buying it all first so i have it installed in minimal down time
i know i have to body lift it to the clear the shock hoops as well