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Which mud for DD and weekend duties

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Which muddy should I get?


Maxxis Buckshot
2
2%
Maxxis Bighorn
20
21%
Mickey T MTZ
25
26%
BFG KM2
34
36%
Nankang Mudstars
4
4%
Cooper STT
10
11%
 
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Which mud for DD and weekend duties

Post by RockyF75 »

Yes, I've searched and read each of the tyre review threads on these tyres, and narrowed it down to these few, I know some of them don't really compare when it comes to price.

I can't make up my mind, so I'm going to ask the audience :D

Going to be used probably 70% onroad and 30% offroad, but if your here to tell me to get a A/T or H/T get stuffed cause I can't afford a second set for weekend play at the moment and I hate not having muddies offroad :D

They will be in a 31" x15, Goin on a 60 series.

The amount of k's I can get out of them is important to me, more so than things like road noise, or handling in the wet. Having had a diesel for 5 years I've gotten quite used to driving slower than everyone else :roll:
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Post by chimpboy »

Where are the wranglers? They're a great all-rounder and have good manners on-road.
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Post by RockyF75 »

chimpboy wrote:Where are the wranglers? They're a great all-rounder and have good manners on-road.
Nah don't like them :D

YMMV

But I suppose I should have included them, as the main reason I don't like them is for the mixed reports. Some say they've gotten heaps of K's outta them, others have been very dissapointed. Although the same's been said about MTZ's, I still have them in my list.
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Post by oldmate »

The only ones i've used are the bfgs. Can't tell you how much you get out of them though. I can tell you they handle good in the wet though ;) So I'm not much good aye!
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Post by v840 »

I have no exp. with them but I've also heard good things about the procomp muddies. May be worth checking out.
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Post by GRIMACE »

KM2s

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Post by RockyF75 »

GRIMACE wrote:KM2s

feel free to lock this thread now.
:lol:

I take it you like them then?

How long/far you had yours for?

I was leaning toward the KM2's, but even gettin them at cost price they are right at the high end of my budget... doesn't rule them out, just means if there's something cheaper that does similar I will consider them too.
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Post by SCANAS »

I have the old style BFG's about 5 years and 45,000ks on them, they have about 5,000ks left in them. Not KM2's but can't speak highly enough of BFG's dd and weekend stuff on a dd poorly aligned 60
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Post by GRIMACE »

RockyF75 wrote:
GRIMACE wrote:KM2s

feel free to lock this thread now.
:lol:

I take it you like them then?

How long/far you had yours for?

I was leaning toward the KM2's, but even gettin them at cost price they are right at the high end of my budget... doesn't rule them out, just means if there's something cheaper that does similar I will consider them too.
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Post by bogged »

RockyF75 wrote:Some say they've gotten heaps of K's outta them, others have been very dissapointed.
every single tyre in your poll could have that said about them.
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Post by OIIIO »

KM2's.

10,000k's so far..
Best muddy on road ever.

Great on rock and gravel/dirt.
Average in big mud.

wearing ok, I'd be surprised to get more than 40k out of them though..

Measure smaller than stated.

Cheaper option would be the bighorns..
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Post by RockyF75 »

OK, after re-reading some older threads, and getting the quotes I think I'm going with the Bighorns.


Kinda funny that no one's voted in the pole yet tho :lol:


At more than $100 cheaper than the KM2's, I just can't justify not buying
them.

Thanks for the replies anyway.
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Post by Evski »

Ive had my Nankangs for over 40 000 on a patrol and now on my HiLux and love them. Great off road and not bad on road. They actually have a fair bit of life left on them and have copped an absolute flogging. At $170 each for a 33" you cant complain really. I actually think they perform better than MTZ's on rocks and IMHO BFG's dont grip well at all. The only let down is in muddy ruts as they have no side lugs so dont climb out well. Just my opinion as all of my mates run muddies of different brands and these go everywhere the oother brands do.
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Post by phat-customs »

Just a little Q-re-Us, what is the price diff between the Buckshots and the Mudstars???

I will be purchasing tyres next week and almost had my heart set on Buckshots
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Post by alien »

31's on a 60 series?

With most muddie style tyres - as you up the size you'll also up the void space (gap between tread)... perhaps looking at slightly larger tyres will give a better mud grip??

I voted cooper STT - as my last set were brilliant - however in sticky clay they clogged up and needed about 20km/hr to self-clean.

I'm now running simex ETs and theyre just unreal - they grip great on and offroad. cant corner as fast as the stt's on road though cos the treads so flexy.
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Post by chunks »

Maxxis Bighorns, absolutely loved them in 33" on my old 60.
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Post by Wambat »

yeah i dont understand why you want 31s on a 60, my 60 went no where with 31s on it, my 75 with 33 bighorns has barely been stoped, a few time but not as much as the 60.

i payed 1600 for 5 bighorns on rims shipped to melbourne from fourbys in queensland.

if no onw has suggested ringing them, i would if i were you.

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Post by RockyF75 »

Are 33"s legal on a 60? These are going to be daily's after all.

And I'm getting them cost price. Was quoted $207ea for 31"s.
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Post by Struth »

BFG muddies, they won the 4WD noaction mud tire comparo even though several other tires got 10/10 for dirt, sand and mud and the BFGs rated a maximum 8 in these three critical mud tire capability categories :finger:

But seriously with my distaste for soft cawk sponsored comparos aside,

I do think the BFGs would make a good allrounder given your stated requirements and probably the MT MTZs will do fine as well.

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Post by SCANAS »

Common rocky the outers oracle has spoken before .... get 33's !

Not sure if they're legal tho? I think 32's are last time i checked 33's BFG's prob measure 32.? anyway
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Post by Loanrangie »

Dunlop Grantrek MT2's, probably not that well known but i have been running a set in 265/75/16's that i got off a mate. He got them 2nd hand and did 30k on them, i then did 40k on them and i can barely tell of any wear on them - pretty cheap too.
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Post by grimbo »

nankang muddies have been amazingly good on my GU. Price wise tey couldn't be beaten and so far they are wearing very well, they handle well, balanced well, perform well on and off road. I'd get them again when they wear out
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Post by grimbo »

RockyF75 wrote:Are 33"s legal on a 60? These are going to be daily's after all.

And I'm getting them cost price. Was quoted $207ea for 31"s.
I got my 33 x 12.50 Nankang Mudstars brand new delivered from Sydney to Melbourne $170 ea purchased on ebay
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Post by OIIIO »

Loanrangie wrote:Dunlop Grantrek MT2's, probably not that well known but i have been running a set in 265/75/16's that i got off a mate. He got them 2nd hand and did 30k on them, i then did 40k on them and i can barely tell of any wear on them - pretty cheap too.
70,000+k's and no wear?...

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Post by DamTriton »

Simex Centipede M/T's lasted about 50000km on a Kia Sportage (1700kg) Bit noisy on road, but not too hairy in the wet like most muds. About $180-$210 these days.

Now marketed/owned by Sime tyres.

Not on your list but worth a look.

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Post by BlueSuzy »

Evski wrote: Great off road and not bad on road. They actually have a fair bit of life left on them and have copped an absolute flogging. At $170 each for a 33" you cant complain really. I actually think they perform better than MTZ's on rocks and IMHO BFG's dont grip well at all. The only let down is in muddy ruts as they have no side lugs so dont climb out well. Just my opinion as all of my mates run muddies of different brands and these go everywhere the other brands do.
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Post by RockyF75 »

grimbo wrote:
RockyF75 wrote:Are 33"s legal on a 60? These are going to be daily's after all.

And I'm getting them cost price. Was quoted $207ea for 31"s.
I got my 33 x 12.50 Nankang Mudstars brand new delivered from Sydney to Melbourne $170 ea purchased on ebay
Yeah thats about the same price as I got for them, the $207 was for the Bighorns.

I like the fact that the boghorns have side-lugs. Will price 33's and if they are not too much more get them.
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Post by chunks »

Definitely go 33s mate, you won't regret it.
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Post by thehanko »

x everyone else for 33's,

ive got buckshots, im happy with them off road, whilstt they are not the most aggresive tyres, they have got me everywhere ive wanted to go and seem to work well across the board from mud to rock.

in mud they dont clear as well as id like and have no side lugs but they do their job well and after all are not a super agressive tread.

no comment on wear as mine dont do many k's.

ive been suprised by their on road manners especially in the wet.

Id buy them again.


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