2010 Ironman Cliffhanger .. New property, 25 teams already

[Wilba]

Rocky boys are ready! Might be able to sort out some entertainment on the non race nights.(Not that Pete and Kingy did a bad job on the first night, might aim for a slightly more family friendly version.)Say music Gear? Let us know if you want us to bring it along.Cheers Billy.

[beretta]

Billy, after witnessing the Rocky boys at their best on the first night, I'm pretty keen to see what else you've got! Bring it, Whitey!

[crazy eyes]

it looks like the rocky boys will be there in full force next year competing and spectating so it will be fun.
there are a couple more guys trying to have a go at getting ready.
cheers crazy eyes

[digsy]

You gonna have a chop at this Jas?
Be nice to be able to stretch the legs on the big ute...

or maybe something new?

There is definately a big crew of support coming down for the Rocky boys...
Gonna be pretty wild...
I bet Benson brings half his family........... that's a wild time right there!

[full-boost]

on the spectators issue, aren't the sponsors going to be more happy if people (other than just racers, who probably have competitors sponsorship) see their company logo! it would be like the V8 supercars not being televised or allowing spectators! sponsors would drop fairly fast! I know its not a HUGE event with 10,000 spectators and sponsors dripping from the walls, but.... I'm sure the naming rights sponsor still thinks about their name getting out and about when they are signing over the sponsorship cheque! its a way to draw more sponsors in as well "you should sponsor it, we have 1000 spectators that will see your nae all over the place". It might be more about the racing than the spectators, but if the sponsors drop, who will fund some of these vehicles, or even the event?

just a thought

[4x4junkie]

I went to the cliffhanger for the first time this year had a great time, Cobar sounds okay. Just feel a little sorry for the locals around the old property who have put so much time and effort in with the new areas for meals and showers I just hope it returns there soon?
Anyways good luck with 2010. its a great event

[4x4junkie]

Everyone seems to have gone quiet on the issue of change of venue! Any more info on next years event and location?? and one for Hobzee and Rudi any plans on returning it to its home in White cliffs???? in the years to come.

come on an event this good has to have some goss??

[NavRun]

The venue is confirmed to be at Cobar for 2010....

and no, there are no plans for White Cliffs in the near future at this stage...

But the future is a long way off.......

[4x4junkie]

All good with Cobar, Shame about white cliffs! about time locals run there own event---hey?

see you at Cobar!

[Hobzee]

Gees - thought no one would ever step up to the plate and offer - thanks.

I've got a challenge car with V8 conversion in progress and only the OBC to race in. Given I cant race in my own event that is. Was also talking to Adrian Szentisi in WA as it might be worth the trip there to compete too.

Woo Hoo - if the Broken Hill boys run an event, please count me in. Totally have my support and I would be pleased to help out any way I can.

Hobzee

[Wilba]

Hobzee,

Any news on the new site at cobar? Doesn`t matter if you have been busy but there is some silly talk up our way that with the change in venue there might be a change in pace of the comp ie slower tighter.Please tell me that this is just a sick joke made up by the geelong boys to get even with Kingy and Pete for thair shanagians the first night at whitecliffs.Cory and myself drank I mean studied really hard to get the feel for the comp and we liked what we saw.Cheers Billy

[montana]

If it's cobar or nowhere then where would you prefer?
I say put up or shut up, constructive critiscism is healthy, so once you've experienced the event at Cobar then fire away. By all means ask questions to see if the event is suitable for you, but negativity at this point is meaningless to all parties involved.
Lets go Racing

i know the property its going to be on and it wont disappoint ,different to what you have been used to ,not as fast but will make you think.

[Wilba]

Thanks for the heads up Montana sounds like a great property!!!My question was though is the format of Cliffhanger going to be changed?Myself I have a picture of what cliffhanger is in my head and a few of us went out this year to see it first hand before we raced it. The change of venue wont worry us in the slightest.But if its going to be a low range only comp like a local winch event we`d like to know this prior to.Cheers Billy

[NavRun]

style will be very similair to white cliffs, howver being different terrain, we can offer a whole new range of stages.... pace is always going to be mixed... from slo to fast to faster..... it won;t change

[Wilba]

Thanks Rudi.Looking foward to it! This year had a great range of stages,it`s how a winch challenge should be.Keep up the good work.Cheers Billy.

[Britswed]

At this stage i have no idea if i will or will not compete but I think it's great that it has moved.Brings the event a whole fresh look & feel and after doingt cliffhanger last year I really do want to do it again this time with a fuel pump that is running more than 18psi & a winch with out a dead short

Mal

[mickyd555]

do we competitors know where the property is yet?

At least which side of Cobar it is for planning purposes, we are coming from Brisbane and i would like to know if we are going through Cobar or turning off beforehand?

[Hobzee]

Hey there Hangers,

Long time no speak. Last week I dragged Doodle out into the heat and we checked out the new pad. Like WOW!

Basically we are not expecting water or mud. Instead there are more offroad racing stages instead of Mud. So it will be Navigation, Winching, Dry Creeks with a mix of sandy stretches and rocky stretches and yep a River winch wall and more adrenaline pumping offroad racing stages. We are very excited this will shape the future of the event in an exciting direction and lure some of the earlier competitors back to the sport with the higher speeds and NO MUD.

Good thing about NO MUD is that these are the stages where dudes bugger trucks and this spoils the rest of the week. They are also the stages where if someone DNF's they often exceed DNF time by over a half hour and we dont get everyone through it in a day.

But having said there is no mud I found the only patch of mud on the property and cheeky remarks coming from the back seat almost landed Rudes with a winch rope in hand.

There are heaps of rocks and heaps of really big trees to winch off.

We have introduced a $250 spectator package that goes for the whole week, including presentation dinner but requires these dudes to head into town each night (can stay for night stages on 2 nights). Last year spectators were $440 - this year the stay in town option is $190 less. You get 4 in a car and thats a $780 saving.

Base camp has 2wd car, truck and caravan access, is right next to a great water supply for swimming and no carting water for toilets and showers. It also has its own gate into a camp area that will be policed by marshals to make sure every car in the camp area has paid for camping access. It also makes it a bit more secure.

Sunday day has stage 1 and then sunday night has stage 2. This enables local midweek workers and school kids in Cobar to have a chance to see some action. So bear in mind we are bringing the start forward from a night stage to a day stage.

Friday night presentation is at Cobar Bowls and Golf Club - caters for about 400 people and we are providing dinner for every attendee other than the one off "single day" spectators. They can pay $25 p.person for presentation night. People are welcome to go back to camp after presentation but we have allowed time so that after Friday racing you can load up and head into Cobar, have presentation and stay in a motel that night and make straight for home Saturday.

Rudes has put up links on the web site for places to book accommodation, etc.

All maps and directions will be given to everyone who signs up online and pays.

[Britswed]

Sounds great hobzee and closer to travel too

Don't know at this stage but hope so

Mal

[NavRun]

Full details of the Cliffhanger will be released to paid competitors and spectators after the new year......

This will give you the heads up of distance from Cobarfrom base camp, etc

[mickyd555]

Full details of the Cliffhanger will be released to paid competitors and spectators after the new year......

This will give you the heads up of distance from Cobarfrom base camp, etc

thanks Rudi

[Rugrat]

and NO MUD.

Good thing about NO no mud

Yeah no cleaning, car, radiator, injectors, dizzy, eyes, butt crack..... and the list go on... but what about the doodle fish?

Means this little black duck needs to waddle faster... or drive and get the small guy to run......

[bh4wder]

As a helper last year, I accept that change can be good for an event, but why so much of an increase in costs for spectators? Ultimately they are the ones who help create new competitors for yours and others events. and also buy from sponsors. not wanting so many spectators is not a very good reason!

[tufflux88]

why do the ccda rules mean that cars have to be regoed.
my car isnt regoed for the simple fact that i dont drive i ton road so im not paying to do so.
this mean si cant enter comps unless i pay 1100+ per year.what a joke.then you need to pay enginerring,entry fees,petrol,food.it all adds up
that being after the fact if it passes a blue and pink slip.
mine probably wont because it has extended shackles which are un engineerable and i cant afford to engineer it anyway.

are there any comps where your car doesnt have to be regoed except tuff truck?

[Collie14]

can i get some info on the event
the price of entery
where it is
what my truck meeds 2 be 2 compete
when is it
is it 1 car or team

[Collie14]

can i get some info on the event
the price of entery
where it is
what my truck meeds 2 be 2 compete
when is it
is it 1 car or team

[NavRun]

go to www.navrun.com.au and clik on the Cliffhanger link... any questions, just email me at navrun@navrun.com.au

[Ruffy]

why do the ccda rules mean that cars have to be regoed.
my car isnt regoed for the simple fact that i dont drive it on road so im not paying to do so.
this means i cant enter comps unless i pay 1100+ per year.

The main objective behind you requiring rego is to remove the onus from the CCDA or event organisers for you to have a "safe" vehicle at the event. It is YOUR responsibility to ensure the vehicle is kept roadworthy and registered this way the event scrutineers only need to ensure you have a sticker on your cage and the required recovery equipment.
It's basically a scapegoat for the CCDA.
Many others feel your pain

PS.. sorry for the hi-jack... Back on topic please

[goodie]

so essentialy its 390 dollars to camp or we can pay 250 bucks and find alternative accom? am i reading that correctly?

[Wilba]

Sad to say But Won`t be able to race this year.I have a spot and if anyone would like it replace my deposit and it`s yours..Maby next year..