I must admit my current set are wearing at a disappointing rate :(Slunnie wrote: Here we go, pictures from 10mins go. 90,000km and almost 6 year old MTR's. Used as DD, desert touring and moderate tripping.
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Tyre Topic - Goodyear Wrangler MT/R
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Had a look at a set of the Kevlars next to the old MTR's and the Kevlars do look very good.
Interestingly, when holding up an slightly worn old type 33x12.5 next to a new 33x12.5 kevlar the new kevlars have a lot more tread depth and they stand a fair bit taller also - probably about 1" as a guess.
Interestingly, when holding up an slightly worn old type 33x12.5 next to a new 33x12.5 kevlar the new kevlars have a lot more tread depth and they stand a fair bit taller also - probably about 1" as a guess.
Cheers
Slunnie
Discovery TD5, Landy IIa V8 ute.
Slunnie
Discovery TD5, Landy IIa V8 ute.
The Kevlar MTRs are one of the few new tyres that are true sizes now. I have read multiple threads in the U.S of members who have switched to the new MTRs and having heaps tyre rubbing issues even though they bought the same size tyre they were running before.Slunnie wrote: the new kevlars have a lot more tread depth and they stand a fair bit taller also - probably about 1" as a guess.
Nitto Mud Grapplers, Lockrite, 4.3s, Trail Ready BL, PTO, High pinion rear,Gu diff with Buds Customs armour and heaps of Superior gear, 24% Reduction .
What web site are looking at? Both those sizes are on the Goodyear web site.Syzygy wrote:Any chance of a few people posting actual diameters of their new MTR's?
Especially interested in 265/75R16 and 285/75R16
Unlike other makers goodyear doesn't give detailed size info it seems.
http://www.goodyeartires.com
Nitto Mud Grapplers, Lockrite, 4.3s, Trail Ready BL, PTO, High pinion rear,Gu diff with Buds Customs armour and heaps of Superior gear, 24% Reduction .
The wrong oneSIM79 wrote:What web site are looking at? Both those sizes are on the Goodyear web site.Syzygy wrote:Any chance of a few people posting actual diameters of their new MTR's?
Especially interested in 265/75R16 and 285/75R16
Unlike other makers goodyear doesn't give detailed size info it seems.
http://www.goodyeartires.com
I was at www.goodyear.com.au
Cheers,
1986 2L-T Bundera
[QUOTE=WA-HCRC;10955843]My best friend just got some 35" MT/r with kevlars. 34.75" Mounted on vehicle, with 25 psi in them :eek: Very true to size tire. Considering his previous tires were old style 35" MT/r's that measured 33.25" mounted. the new Kevlars are HUGE.[/QUOTE]
Found one rig thats going to running Sticky Kelvars MTRs at KOH10
[QUOTE=GC4X4;10948926]Well its time we were finally able to complete all jobs needing to be done before we leave for KOH and we can concentrate on good old #111 the new motor arrived a few weeks ago 400+hp norhtstar built, cams,ect. redlines @ 8000 should be fun. Got the chassis painted and motor in most of the fab is done but it never ends. Making new front links tonight axle shafts will be here in the morning thank you YUKON , tires (40" MTR KEVLAR STICKY'S) should show up tomorrow thanks too Jack @ GOODYEAR and we will get the STAUN internal beadlocks installed and be ready to roll. We have our work cut out for us but we will make we always do I'd like to give a special thanks to my team Chad, Dino, Liz for pulln together and makn this happen Johnson Valley here we come.[/QUOTE]
Found one rig thats going to running Sticky Kelvars MTRs at KOH10
[QUOTE=GC4X4;10948926]Well its time we were finally able to complete all jobs needing to be done before we leave for KOH and we can concentrate on good old #111 the new motor arrived a few weeks ago 400+hp norhtstar built, cams,ect. redlines @ 8000 should be fun. Got the chassis painted and motor in most of the fab is done but it never ends. Making new front links tonight axle shafts will be here in the morning thank you YUKON , tires (40" MTR KEVLAR STICKY'S) should show up tomorrow thanks too Jack @ GOODYEAR and we will get the STAUN internal beadlocks installed and be ready to roll. We have our work cut out for us but we will make we always do I'd like to give a special thanks to my team Chad, Dino, Liz for pulln together and makn this happen Johnson Valley here we come.[/QUOTE]
Nitto Mud Grapplers, Lockrite, 4.3s, Trail Ready BL, PTO, High pinion rear,Gu diff with Buds Customs armour and heaps of Superior gear, 24% Reduction .
I have just bought a set of 285/75/16 kevla mtr's. Only driven on the road so far. I cant believe how quiet they are. Thet are quite aggressive when you see then in real life. I had mtz's in 265/75/16 previously which were bout 50% worn. The new mtr's are so much better on the road, steering, handling and quietness are fantastic. (Compared to the new mtz'z)
If these tyres do not loud are they have worn a little then I wouldnt buy an all terrain just for quietness or on road handling.
If these tyres do not loud are they have worn a little then I wouldnt buy an all terrain just for quietness or on road handling.
Sorry to jump in on the conversation mate! Hahaha! Sitting shotgun with you on that trip I can vouch for how well the MTR's did, and will be buying a set for my TJ soon, and for the upcoming GQ. A very impressive tyre indeed!Patroler wrote:Still no complaints with mine, went up the vic high country weekend before queens bday with a mate who drives a GU ute - I'm in a GQ LWB, both TD42 - his has a turbo mine doesn't, so fairly similar vehicles, he also had an 80l water tank and both fuel tanks full under tray, so not too light in the rear - he's running 265/75/16 MTZ's i'm on MT/R's - same size.
Anyway, went down through pykes flat to go up corn hill logging track, i drove through the bog hole at the bottom, almost got stuck but pulled through ok - dirty...
On the way up corn hill i went first and didn't really have any dramas, was still at 40psi - mate had already dropped to 25 at the start of the day and about 1/2 way up lost forward progress and had to roll back to a switchback and drop more out around 20psi, he made it but so did I without airing down.
Was 1st low most of the way up with some wheelspin here and there - wet clay mud.
Could be different drivers that made the difference - he's a little more gentle with things than me and maybe just didn't clear the treads.
Either way i'm happy with the mt/r's thus far.
Sticky Kevlar MTRs feedback
[QUOTE=miniwally;11050382]We ran the 42" size. I have been looking for a 42" tire that I like for a few years now. TSL's worked well but I out grew them and their abilities, Sticky Iroks were good but seemed to go away fast, Bias ply Iroks just didn't grip the way I hoped they would.
Then I spent a day on the trail watching another vehicle with the DOT version of the new MTR and was more than impressed.
We got the chance to run on the new goodyear sticky at KOH. I can tell you that my tire search is over. Goodyear hit a homerun with these tires.
We had one flat at the top of the devils slide. Large sidwall cut, this was operator error not tire issues, we ran the sidewall across a jagged rock or maybe even something metal that was off the trail just a bit. Had we seen what it was we would have stayed away from it.
The tires tracked straight and handled well at 18 psi and 70+ MPH. We hit a rock with the left front during shock tuning that just about rolled the car over. The tire went on to run the race and is still on the car with no indication that it took that large of a hit.
After looking at the tires in the shop on Monday this week I am convinced that they are just at the point that they are really broken in and I am curious to see if they will start working even better than they did during the race. I can't imagine them getting better but I know that there is a point in a tires life that it is a good as it can be.
I have driven this same car for 7 years now. It has had TSL's, Iroks, and sticky iroks and now the Goodyear MTRs on it in that time. So far I am more than pleased with the way the tires hooked up and held their line, if they couldn't get traction a little wheel spin and they grabbed and off you went. It seems that the MTR made the car work even better.
I give the Goodyear MTR :flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2: out of :flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2:
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[QUOTE=miniwally;11050382]We ran the 42" size. I have been looking for a 42" tire that I like for a few years now. TSL's worked well but I out grew them and their abilities, Sticky Iroks were good but seemed to go away fast, Bias ply Iroks just didn't grip the way I hoped they would.
Then I spent a day on the trail watching another vehicle with the DOT version of the new MTR and was more than impressed.
We got the chance to run on the new goodyear sticky at KOH. I can tell you that my tire search is over. Goodyear hit a homerun with these tires.
We had one flat at the top of the devils slide. Large sidwall cut, this was operator error not tire issues, we ran the sidewall across a jagged rock or maybe even something metal that was off the trail just a bit. Had we seen what it was we would have stayed away from it.
The tires tracked straight and handled well at 18 psi and 70+ MPH. We hit a rock with the left front during shock tuning that just about rolled the car over. The tire went on to run the race and is still on the car with no indication that it took that large of a hit.
After looking at the tires in the shop on Monday this week I am convinced that they are just at the point that they are really broken in and I am curious to see if they will start working even better than they did during the race. I can't imagine them getting better but I know that there is a point in a tires life that it is a good as it can be.
I have driven this same car for 7 years now. It has had TSL's, Iroks, and sticky iroks and now the Goodyear MTRs on it in that time. So far I am more than pleased with the way the tires hooked up and held their line, if they couldn't get traction a little wheel spin and they grabbed and off you went. It seems that the MTR made the car work even better.
I give the Goodyear MTR :flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2: out of :flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2:
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Nitto Mud Grapplers, Lockrite, 4.3s, Trail Ready BL, PTO, High pinion rear,Gu diff with Buds Customs armour and heaps of Superior gear, 24% Reduction .
used mine for the first time today for those who know it, at Ormeau.
Started off the day amazing. but by midday not so good.
Seems 20 psi may not have been low enough. They were bagging, but not much. Have rounded off leading edges and chipped the tread quite a bit. I don't exactly drive with a lead foot either but there was alot of wheelspin as it was quite slippery all day.
A bit dissapointed at the wear at this stage. They won't last more than 10 day trips at this rate. But traction...I was very impressed. Mud was not as bad as many make out, infact pretty sure they were better than the Bighorns i used to have. Directional stability was excellent, sideways crossslope traction brilliant, road handling very good. I could go on...
Hopefully running lower pressures will imrpove this ghastly wear. My last muddies, maxxis bighorns didn't chip and tear as quickly as these things are :(
Started off the day amazing. but by midday not so good.
Seems 20 psi may not have been low enough. They were bagging, but not much. Have rounded off leading edges and chipped the tread quite a bit. I don't exactly drive with a lead foot either but there was alot of wheelspin as it was quite slippery all day.
A bit dissapointed at the wear at this stage. They won't last more than 10 day trips at this rate. But traction...I was very impressed. Mud was not as bad as many make out, infact pretty sure they were better than the Bighorns i used to have. Directional stability was excellent, sideways crossslope traction brilliant, road handling very good. I could go on...
Hopefully running lower pressures will imrpove this ghastly wear. My last muddies, maxxis bighorns didn't chip and tear as quickly as these things are :(
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I have had a set for quite some time now and the same set has been on 2 vehicles and been happy with thema nd have been used alot on different terrain but i recently used tehm at cape york and i will say that destroyed them.
In the last 2 months i have slced the sidewall of 2 tyres and i know thsi can happen to every tyre but i had other vehicles follow with different breed of tyres and ho damge to there's at all and all im saying is that once this set is worn out i will no longer be buying them again and dont get me started on teh price at near enough to $400 a pop and i cna get maxxis creepies cheaper than that.
In the last 2 months i have slced the sidewall of 2 tyres and i know thsi can happen to every tyre but i had other vehicles follow with different breed of tyres and ho damge to there's at all and all im saying is that once this set is worn out i will no longer be buying them again and dont get me started on teh price at near enough to $400 a pop and i cna get maxxis creepies cheaper than that.
ormeau is epic rock. add a bit of water and there's going to be alot of wheelspin and slip. only tyres which don't seem to get owned at ormeau are from the likes of Simex.
my ATs got torn up pretty badly last time I went out there as well.
But there is no doubt in my mind that the kevlar MTR in 285/75r16 with white sidewall writing is not the pick if you drive jagged, shale-type rock terrain. the tread is simply not going to hold up to it.
my ATs got torn up pretty badly last time I went out there as well.
But there is no doubt in my mind that the kevlar MTR in 285/75r16 with white sidewall writing is not the pick if you drive jagged, shale-type rock terrain. the tread is simply not going to hold up to it.
I rang up for a quote today (22/2/2010) and the 31x10.5r15 Kevlar MTR's were $330 (out of my price range).
Just for comparison sake, I got other quotes for 31's at a number of different places also. MTZ- $295, ATZ- $270, Bridgestone Dueler MT- $295, Cooper ST- $278, Maxxis Bighorn- $239, Maxxis Buckshot- $185.
If I had more money to burn, I would definitely consider getting a set of the new ones for my Pajero, as I own and old set of 235/75r15 on my Suzuki Sierra and cant fault them, even after 90,000kms and 5 years.
Just for comparison sake, I got other quotes for 31's at a number of different places also. MTZ- $295, ATZ- $270, Bridgestone Dueler MT- $295, Cooper ST- $278, Maxxis Bighorn- $239, Maxxis Buckshot- $185.
If I had more money to burn, I would definitely consider getting a set of the new ones for my Pajero, as I own and old set of 235/75r15 on my Suzuki Sierra and cant fault them, even after 90,000kms and 5 years.
1990 NG Paj TDI: 2.5 exhaust, 146l Longranger tank, snorkel, 2" suspension lift, 31" Bighorns.
1985 Holden Drover: 2" OME suspension & shocks, extractors, 2" exhaust, 235/75 MTR's
1985 Holden Drover: 2" OME suspension & shocks, extractors, 2" exhaust, 235/75 MTR's
That's a bloody good price for the Bighorn and Buckshot! 8 months ago i rang all over brisbane and couldn't near that. I ended up getting the old style MTR's 32"x11.5 for $380ea (buy 3 get 1 free)Sammyboy wrote:I rang up for a quote today (22/2/2010) and the 31x10.5r15 Kevlar MTR's were $330 (out of my price range).
Just for comparison sake, I got other quotes for 31's at a number of different places also. MTZ- $295, ATZ- $270, Bridgestone Dueler MT- $295, Cooper ST- $278, Maxxis Bighorn- $239, Maxxis Buckshot- $185.
If I had more money to burn, I would definitely consider getting a set of the new ones for my Pajero, as I own and old set of 235/75r15 on my Suzuki Sierra and cant fault them, even after 90,000kms and 5 years.
cheers
fawk me.. tyres are expensive where you are!Jeeps wrote:That's a bloody good price for the Bighorn and Buckshot! 8 months ago i rang all over brisbane and couldn't near that. I ended up getting the old style MTR's 32"x11.5 for $380ea (buy 3 get 1 free)Sammyboy wrote:I rang up for a quote today (22/2/2010) and the 31x10.5r15 Kevlar MTR's were $330 (out of my price range).
Just for comparison sake, I got other quotes for 31's at a number of different places also. MTZ- $295, ATZ- $270, Bridgestone Dueler MT- $295, Cooper ST- $278, Maxxis Bighorn- $239, Maxxis Buckshot- $185.
If I had more money to burn, I would definitely consider getting a set of the new ones for my Pajero, as I own and old set of 235/75r15 on my Suzuki Sierra and cant fault them, even after 90,000kms and 5 years.
cheers
Re: new
Most manufacturers hid a ~75-100 per tyre price rise on the "Financial crisis"....hulsty wrote:Bloody hell prices have gone up!! 14 months ago I bought 33x12.5R15 Bighorns for 230 each fitted and balanced!
Yom has the new ones.yamaha123 wrote:you talkin about the new tread pattern?
on the new kevlar ones? amazing price then...BowTieGQ wrote:Shop around more. I paid less than that for my 285's.Sammyboy wrote:I rang up for a quote today (22/2/2010) and the 31x10.5r15 Kevlar MTR's were $330 (out of my price range).
Syzygy... I've had that problem too
PM this bloke http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/pr ... ile&u=2781... it could really be worth ya while.
Yep, that's why I asked if you were interested a while ago.bogged wrote:on the new kevlar ones? amazing price then...BowTieGQ wrote:Shop around more. I paid less than that for my 285's.Sammyboy wrote:I rang up for a quote today (22/2/2010) and the 31x10.5r15 Kevlar MTR's were $330 (out of my price range).
BowTieGQ wrote:Bruce, interested in some more if good price? New style only. Can't find any old ones in 285.bogged wrote:285's $440each last week..BowTieGQ wrote:So any updates on the new ones? Been a couple of months now. I'm after some old ones but no one can get them anymore. How's the latest prices for the new ones too?
[quote="bazooked"]can i use a mate to position while i screw? :twisted:[/quote]
yea dont want new style. Don't like em at all... also didnt think the price would be that much compared to what I've been gettin, but that was only recentlyBowTieGQ wrote:Yep, that's why I asked if you were interested a while ago.bogged wrote:on the new kevlar ones? amazing price then...BowTieGQ wrote:Shop around more. I paid less than that for my 285's.Sammyboy wrote:I rang up for a quote today (22/2/2010) and the 31x10.5r15 Kevlar MTR's were $330 (out of my price range).BowTieGQ wrote:Bruce, interested in some more if good price? New style only. Can't find any old ones in 285.bogged wrote:285's $440each last week..BowTieGQ wrote:So any updates on the new ones? Been a couple of months now. I'm after some old ones but no one can get them anymore. How's the latest prices for the new ones too?
makes me think even more i simply didn't have enough air out of the tyres. i really was struggling for traction and coupled with the heep having a shiteload of torque/fully locked doesn't help with being nice to tyres on sharp shale-type wet rock.
Luckily i can just swap sides the tyres are on and they will have fresh biting tread.
Luckily i can just swap sides the tyres are on and they will have fresh biting tread.
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