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Toyota RAV4 FULL makeover

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Post by FoxyRav »

Toyota Prado Dimensions

# (Note: Some figures are approximate only and may vary due to options/accessories fitted.)
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External dimensions
STD

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- Length (mm)
4930

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- Width (mm)
1885

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- Height (mm)
1845

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- Wheelbase (mm)
2790

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- Ground clearance (mm)
205

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- Max wading depth (mm)
700

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Off road specifics
STD

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- Approach angle
32.0

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- Departure angle
25
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Post by FoxyRav »

Toyota Prado GXL

TOYOTA PRADO GXL - DIMENSIONS
Length (mm) 4850 RAV 4150mm
Width (mm) 1875 RAV 1695mm
Height (mm) 1865 RAV 1656mm WHO CARES BUT
Track - front (mm) 1575 RAV 1466mm
Track - rear (mm) 1575 RAV 1466mm
Wheelbase (mm) 2790 RAV 2410mm
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Post by DUDELUX »

oldmate wrote:
DUDELUX wrote:Yes they can, and those kinds of men also wear teal slacks :D .
And they lurve the 9inch extended somethings, oh yeah shackles I think they call it.
Teal slacks are all the rage, so it seems.

If you google "teal slacks" this thread is 5th on the list
You know that you can buy teal slacks from Rivers at the moment, theres an ad on telly.
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Post by mike_nofx »

DUDELUX wrote:
oldmate wrote:
DUDELUX wrote:Yes they can, and those kinds of men also wear teal slacks :D .
And they lurve the 9inch extended somethings, oh yeah shackles I think they call it.
Teal slacks are all the rage, so it seems.

If you google "teal slacks" this thread is 5th on the list
You know that you can buy teal slacks from Rivers at the moment, theres an ad on telly.
Outers is now 4th when googling teal slacks. It's climbing!

How do you get it higher? By having the words "teal slacks" typed more often than any other site?

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Post by thrashlux »

FoxyRav wrote:Toyota Prado GXL

TOYOTA PRADO GXL - DIMENSIONS
Length (mm) 4850 RAV 4150mm
Width (mm) 1875 RAV 1695mm
Height (mm) 1865 RAV 1656mm WHO CARES BUT
Track - front (mm) 1575 RAV 1466mm
Track - rear (mm) 1575 RAV 1466mm
Wheelbase (mm) 2790 RAV 2410mm
ok the prado i am talking about is the gen 1 prado it has nothing in common with the current or other offerings
it is just a long wheel base bundy it looks like the new 70 series wagon behind the front doors

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it looks too long anyway
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Post by FoxyRav »

thrashlux wrote:
FoxyRav wrote:Toyota Prado GXL


ok the prado i am talking about is the gen 1 prado it has nothing in common with the current or other offerings
it is just a long wheel base bundy it looks like the new 70 series wagon behind the front doors

Image

it looks too long anyway
Ye its all good....
I think where defiantly gunna go the Bundy...
There's a bloke on Ebay wrecking his out, we sent him an email
earlier to see how much he wanted for the Chassis ect.
And if its do able i would really like to go the SR20DET engine.
Or another Turbo engine that would fit and carry the car without
troubles.. :P
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Post by SCANAS »

if you go the bundy the 3sge or 3sgte engine would be more suitable than SR20
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Post by bj on roids »

I dont beleive its possible until we have seen you and the rav in pictures.
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Post by bogged »

oldmate wrote:
DUDELUX wrote:Yes they can, and those kinds of men also wear teal slacks :D .
And they lurve the 9inch extended somethings, oh yeah shackles I think they call it.
Teal slacks are all the rage, so it seems.

If you google "teal slacks" this thread is 5th on the list
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Post by MR 1JZ »

IFTTS

in for the teal slacks

and pics of rav + owner
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Post by thrashlux »

SCANAS wrote:if you go the bundy the 3sge or 3sgte engine would be more suitable than SR20
x2

i have done a few of the 3s and 3sgte conversions into north south format
i will be in brizzy from time to time over the next year its basically a bolt in with the right selection of parts

if i were you i would get a gen 3 or gen 4 3sgte the gen4 is the most powerfull (200 kw std)and normally comes with an auto which is no drama cause you dont want the box anyway
there are a few tricks to putting them in all from toyota parts bin you just need to know what to buy and from what model
the only things you will need fabricated is a flywheel and chassis engine mounts and perhaps a manifold depending on under bonnet space i can make these or if too busy direct you to some one who can


i can do the wiring for you as well that is a sideline business of mine
if you want info u can pm me on my availabilty

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Post by thrashlux »

just so you can put a picture with the engine

this is one of the conversions i did to one of my own road cars that i have in brisbane
my 77 celica its a 97 3sgte gen 3 i made the manifolds and stuff myself all will be basically the same as what you need to do
you use the same bellhousing etc to bolt to the bundy gearbox and transfer


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Post by FoxyRav »

I dont see the point of putting pictures of me and RAV on,
Its as standard as they come,
Wouldn't it be better once i actually start on the project.
Or is it a matter of not believing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by DUDELUX »

I beleive you Foxy, just hurry up and start it already :D
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Post by thehanko »

another vote for the bundy chassis!

the wheel track of the trol is too wide and will involve either huge flairs, or pumped guards and huge flairs, both of which would be expensive if ever damaged offroad. plus could be so wide compared to the body it would look wierd.

the bundy is still wider but not as wide as the trol.

note the picture of the other rav on a trol chassis had narrowed diffs.

From what i know its easier to engineer like branded bodies / eng / chassis etc. though it probably wont make much difference in this case, but i would stick with yota gear.

one of the benefits of small cars is that they are smaller and lighter. so go with that. The yota combos are going to achieve that hands down.

the patrol will need a bigger donk which is hard to fit in the rav eng bay.

I had a lux with the rb 30 in it and would say its way to long for the rav. it was too long for the hilux and required the radiator to be in the tray.

Cool idea, think it could be wicked! I just hope your small budget ( though it depends what you call small) is enough as a huge amount of this car will be custom, and its amasing how much it adds up even when you use your own time, stuff which seams to be minor in the scheme of things could cost thousands.

on top of the value of your car as it I would expect to spend another 20 grand.

It always amases me what we end up spending on 'straight forward' :roll: jobs :lol: .
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Post by 80's_delirious »

I'll throw in another vote for the bundy chassis and diffs etc for lightness.

I would look at longer suspension links and relocating coil hats etc rather than lengthening the chassis, it will improve offroad capability with minimal impact on road manners.

1UZ is an alloy v8 made by Toyota and used in Lexus and Toyota models. Light weight, compact, plenty of grunt and toyota built.

Only advantage of Patrol running gear is its reputaion for strength, but Toyota diffs can be beefed up with ARB difflocks, aftermarket axles and CV's if you get really serious off road, as you would most likely fit diff locks in patrol diffs, there is no advantage to using patrol diffs IMO

I agree with Hanko, I hope your 'small' budget is pretty big, I see this getting expensive quickly even if you have people who can do lots of the work for you.
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Post by flyinwall »

ok where are the updates as to where the planning stage has got up to
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Post by flyology »

5 pages and nothing concrete yet...... will it happen???
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Post by Wozza244 »

flyology wrote:5 pages and nothing concrete yet...... will it happen???
IMHO, no i think this will all end up a waste of time and money, kinda like my old green 60 :lol:
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Post by wampbell80s »

this sounds good and it should work with a bit of hard work

One thing that has not been said is the brakes
is the rav master cylinder going to be ok for the rear drum set up and are the bundy brakes going to be able to stop a more powerful engine.
that is the other bonus with the gq they come out disc at the rear for better braking(petrol gq)
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Post by wampbell80s »

this sounds good and it should work with a bit of hard work

One thing that has not been said is the brakes
is the rav master cylinder going to be ok for the rear drum set up and are the bundy brakes going to be able to stop a more powerful engine.
that is the other bonus with the gq they come out disc at the rear for better braking(petrol gq)
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Post by flyology »

If using the bundy chassis it would be a good conversion and reasonably easy to get 70 series diffs, that way you have big brakes on the front, and discs on the rear.

If the patrol diffs are used there is all sorts of issues with the rear diff being central and using a off set transfer case, especially in a short wheel base vehicle....

I think the conversion would be great, but I just can't see it being done as there has been lots of assistance offered and no concrete point of starting by the initial poster.....

P.S. master cylinders are very easy to change for another, toyotas have a wide variety of sizes available, I am running a 1" 1/16 on my 60 series....
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Post by thrashlux »

wampbell80s wrote:this sounds good and it should work with a bit of hard work

One thing that has not been said is the brakes
is the rav master cylinder going to be ok for the rear drum set up and are the bundy brakes going to be able to stop a more powerful engine.
that is the other bonus with the gq they come out disc at the rear for better braking(petrol gq)
plenty of hiluxes out there with big engine and the same brakes as the bundy
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Post by beinthemud »

thrashlux wrote:
wampbell80s wrote:this sounds good and it should work with a bit of hard work

One thing that has not been said is the brakes
is the rav master cylinder going to be ok for the rear drum set up and are the bundy brakes going to be able to stop a more powerful engine.
that is the other bonus with the gq they come out disc at the rear for better braking(petrol gq)
plenty of hiluxes out there with big engine and the same brakes as the bundy
Yup and one of the outers team does bundy rear disc break conversions
hat would be Roctoy Designfab
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Post by flyinwall »

well i had to go for a dig for this but...............

is there any updates with this i want to see it done
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Post by 80's_delirious »

flyinwall wrote:well i had to dig this outta the too hard basket




prove us wrong foxy, it will be cool to see it done :cool:
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Post by SimonInAustralia »

Probably realised how expensive, and how much work it will be, and has given up.

Though now I say that, she will probably come back on having bought a chassis to put the body onto.

Some additional photos of the earlier mentioned modded Rav4 were posted on the 4WD Action forums...

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Post by nicbeer »

Sounds horn :)

I would own one, although street cred would suck :lol:
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Post by 80's_delirious »

nicbeer wrote:Sounds horn :)

I would own one, although street cred would suck :lol:
looks tops :cool: It would have to have more street cred than just another Zook?? :lol: :lol: at least just because it is so different.
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Post by SimonInAustralia »

I'd like to see a 2 door Rav modded like that.
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