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Post by 5inchgq »

i'm looking to fix one end of my rear coils (so they don't fall out at full flex) in my LWB gq i'm sure people here have done something similar and was just wanting some ideas re which end is better to fix and ways ppl have done this...........
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Post by SuperiorEngineering »

We retain the bottom and use 100mm cones in the top.

here is a link for the coil drop out cones.
http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/p ... cts_id=847

link for the rear coil retainers.
http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/p ... ts_id=4066


This is now standard in every kit we sell 4 inch and above. ;)
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Post by sudso »

Why not just run the right size shocks?
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Post by mike_nofx »

Flexy coils?
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Post by SuperiorEngineering »

sudso wrote:Why not just run the right size shocks?

More guys than you would think want larger shocks for more wheel travel.

We sell these with every 3,4,5,6 inch kit with no problems..

Also as a suspension sags the shocks will not get any shorter so you then have the problem of the coil becoming loose as the coil has a lower free height.
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Post by SuperiorEngineering »

mike_nofx wrote:Flexy coils?

Not many flexy coils have proven themselves on the market, they have their place and so do conventional coils, different kits, different applications,different coils, different shocks, different manufacturers, so on and so on.

I have heard negative and positive feedback from "flexy coils" but yes that is another option, but if he has the coils already then it is the more expensive option that may not be any better.
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Post by craz3d »

Running the 'right size shock' is a bad idea, you shouldn't be using the shock as a coil retainer. In fact, the shock should never reach either maximum point.
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Post by beinthemud »

SuperiorEngineering wrote:We retain the bottom and use 100mm cones in the top.

here is a link for the coil drop out cones.
http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/p ... cts_id=847

link for the rear coil retainers.
http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/p ... ts_id=4066


This is now standard in every kit we sell 4 inch and above. ;)

or you could just make your own
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Post by sudso »

craz3d wrote:Running the 'right size shock' is a bad idea, you shouldn't be using the shock as a coil retainer. In fact, the shock should never reach either maximum point.
You better tell all the vehicle manufacturers then that they've been doing it wrong for decades.
True the shock should never reach full compression as the force of the weight of the vehicle could kill it very quickly but there's nowhere near the same force from a drooping axle and most shocks have inbuilt bump stops for that, well should have anyway.
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Post by steel »

craz3d wrote:Running the 'right size shock' is a bad idea, you shouldn't be using the shock as a coil retainer. In fact, the shock should never reach either maximum point.
This statement is plain wrong, there is nothing wrong with a shock limiting the extension of a suspensions travel.
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Post by HeathGQ »

steel wrote:
craz3d wrote:Running the 'right size shock' is a bad idea, you shouldn't be using the shock as a coil retainer. In fact, the shock should never reach either maximum point.
This statement is plain wrong, there is nothing wrong with a shock limiting the extension of a suspensions travel.
mine Pro-Comps have been hitting the extension limit for 4 years now, and they're fine. I think you'll find it's when you hit the top compression of the shock that its bad.

Retain top and bottom, or use coil drop outs at the top as per Superior Engineering's (Mick) post. I'll do this on my next set-up, but for now I'm happy with what I got.
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Post by 5inchgq »

i'm running 3" toughdogs in the rear at the moment but taking them out , i scored a 5" set of pro comps that i was going to give a run hense needing to retain the coils as the tough dogs used to stop just before the coils got too loose .....
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Post by beinthemud »

steel wrote:
craz3d wrote:Running the 'right size shock' is a bad idea, you shouldn't be using the shock as a coil retainer. In fact, the shock should never reach either maximum point.
This statement is plain wrong, there is nothing wrong with a shock limiting the extension of a suspensions travel.
Ageed its full compression thats the problem
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