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GQ. Why does my passenger front axle seal always give up?

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Post by RUSSMUSS »

well that is a good question i personally havent used nissan ones only after market, ill get some this week and try it out
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SLASH wrote:Hey man, could be the brand of the seals. Have you tried genuine? A mate had a problem with rear seals & changed to genuine & problem fixed. Couldnt beleive the difference in thickness between the two. Genuine was heaps thicker. Cheers Loz.
yeah ta loz a mate told me the same thing I'll give that a go this weekend. Firkin hate leaks.
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Post by nastytroll »

steel wrote:
bogged wrote:
Leeroy wrote:So you just top the oil up to make sure there's enough to wash all the grease out of the CV then scratch your head and complain when the CV konks out "for no reason"....???
didnt the christie bros remove (or blew em, then left them) the seal years ago and run oil to lube everything in their comp truck diffs?? or did i dream that?

That might work on a comp truck,, if you don't mind oil pissing everywhere, but not reccomended on a vehicle that does road kilometres.

Old landrovers had the cv's in an oil bath, though they used leather swivel hub seals,,, still pissed out.
And the HD upgrade for the rovers was a tube of moly grease and drain the oil.
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Post by sudso »

bogged wrote:
Leeroy wrote:So you just top the oil up to make sure there's enough to wash all the grease out of the CV then scratch your head and complain when the CV konks out "for no reason"....???
didnt the christie bros remove (or blew em, then left them) the seal years ago and run oil to lube everything in their comp truck diffs?? or did i dream that?
Truth is gear oil wont hurt cv's but it's pretty obvious to Mr Plod with a canary pad when it's leaking all over the road and you dont want to be caught out losing too much diff oil while 4wdriving.
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Post by steel »

sudso wrote:
bogged wrote:
Leeroy wrote:So you just top the oil up to make sure there's enough to wash all the grease out of the CV then scratch your head and complain when the CV konks out "for no reason"....???
didnt the christie bros remove (or blew em, then left them) the seal years ago and run oil to lube everything in their comp truck diffs?? or did i dream that?
Truth is gear oil wont hurt cv's but it's pretty obvious to Mr Plod with a canary pad when it's leaking all over the road and you dont want to be caught out losing too much diff oil while 4wdriving.
Yeah CV's might be allright, especially with free wheeling hubs unlocked for road driving, but wheel bearings won't be so happy.
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Re: GQ. Why does my passenger front axle seal always give up

Post by BadMav »

morewheeldrive wrote:Yup! I've done swivel hubs and axle front axle seals 3 times on my gq and this time around it lasted 5 months but is now leaking again. Always the passenger never drivers side. I put the axle seal in sooo carefully after it let go the second time and I don't know what els to do. Does anyone els have this same problem? Please help!
Had the same problem in my maverick, ended up being the steering adjusted waaaay too far to the left. The CV joint would actually pinch the seal at full lock.

I adjusted it back and it hasn't done it since.
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Post by sudso »

steel wrote:
sudso wrote:
bogged wrote:
Leeroy wrote:So you just top the oil up to make sure there's enough to wash all the grease out of the CV then scratch your head and complain when the CV konks out "for no reason"....???
didnt the christie bros remove (or blew em, then left them) the seal years ago and run oil to lube everything in their comp truck diffs?? or did i dream that?
Truth is gear oil wont hurt cv's but it's pretty obvious to Mr Plod with a canary pad when it's leaking all over the road and you dont want to be caught out losing too much diff oil while 4wdriving.
Yeah CV's might be allright, especially with free wheeling hubs unlocked for road driving, but wheel bearings won't be so happy.
Well the rear wheel bearings are lubricated by exactly the same type of oil ;)
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BadMav wrote:
morewheeldrive wrote:Yup! I've done swivel hubs and axle front axle seals 3 times on my gq and this time around it lasted 5 months but is now leaking again. Always the passenger never drivers side. I put the axle seal in sooo carefully after it let go the second time and I don't know what els to do. Does anyone els have this same problem? Please help!
Had the same problem in my maverick, ended up being the steering adjusted waaaay too far to the left. The CV joint would actually pinch the seal at full lock.

I adjusted it back and it hasn't done it since.
so a good wheel alignment would be a good fix yes?
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Post by Yom »

no there's a steering stopper on the rear side of the swivel hub.

this needs to be adjusted out a bit. Make sure you adjust both left and right sides the same distance and test lock to lock movement.
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Re: GQ. Why does my passenger front axle seal always give up

Post by outback_pootrol »

morewheeldrive wrote:
so a good wheel alignment would be a good fix yes?
noberries, hows about you convince shell you need my gu diffs that never leak :finger: :rofl:
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Re: GQ. Why does my passenger front axle seal always give up

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outback_pootrol wrote:
morewheeldrive wrote:
so a good wheel alignment would be a good fix yes?
noberries, hows about you convince shell you need my gu diffs that never leak :finger: :rofl:
bah! She has been convinced. All I need is the go ahead from u to strike a deal lol. Gimme gimme gimme. We must talk. Ps TT2011 zuke build sounds fun.
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Post by 4wdnut »

this might be a stupid question, but where do you buy the genuine seals from? and how do you know whether its just a seal or the whole swivel hub is leaking?

i dont know much about swivel hubs and front axle seals so can someone elaborate a bit more maybe? thanks :)
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Post by paul44b »

4wdnut wrote:this might be a stupid question, but where do you buy the genuine seals from? and how do you know whether its just a seal or the whole swivel hub is leaking?

i dont know much about swivel hubs and front axle seals so can someone elaborate a bit more maybe? thanks :)
I'd try Nissan for the seals..
The seal is the only thing stopping the oil from coming out the diff...there is not suppose to be any oil in the swivel hub...in other words if you have oil coming out of the swivel hub the axle seal is leaking and you could pick-up a genuine article from Nissan...
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Post by 4wdnut »

okay cool thanks, cos ive also got oil coming out of somewhere on the lhf side, so far it sounds like good news, am i better off doing anyrthing else while its apart? bearings and stuff?
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Post by sudso »

4wdnut wrote:this might be a stupid question, but where do you buy the genuine seals from?
Yep the genuine ones are from Nissan only ;)
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Post by 4wdnut »

went and got one today, hope i got the right one, its not the shape i was expecting really..
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Ok so I checked my steering stoppers. At first glance I thought hmm yep still there. And I remembered that I had been super carefull to keep them at the same adjustment when I last overhauled the hubs. Buuuut on closer inspection turns out left side ( leaky side) steering stopper is bent and the head is broken off. Siiiiick. That's why my cv is chewing the axle seal out. Annoying issue but at the same time I'm happy that it most likely proves that my housing isn't bent. Epic win if I may.
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morewheeldrive wrote:Ok so I checked my steering stoppers. At first glance I thought hmm yep still there. And I remembered that I had been super carefull to keep them at the same adjustment when I last overhauled the hubs. Buuuut on closer inspection turns out left side ( leaky side) steering stopper is bent and the head is broken off. Siiiiick. That's why my cv is chewing the axle seal out. Annoying issue but at the same time I'm happy that it most likely proves that my housing isn't bent. Epic win if I may.
Thought that might be it, took me a while to find it. I've got an adjustable steering arm tho so mine was an easy fix.
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Post by extremegu4x4 »

I have a new front diff in my GU and it leaks from the ball joint
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Post by chunks »

What balljoint?
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