Grafting Gu diff centre into 80 series housing

[PacMan]

Hello,

how much are the Toyota spider gears for the Nissan center?
On the ARB webpage is only a note that you have to buy the hole gearing set.

And how hard is it to change the gear set?

I been at my local ARB shop and they could not help me in any way.
Could not work out a price for the gear and they dont want to change them at all.


Thanks
Chris

[Slunnie]

Hello,

how much are the Toyota spider gears for the Nissan center?
On the ARB webpage is only a note that you have to buy the hole gearing set.

And how hard is it to change the gear set?

I been at my local ARB shop and they could not help me in any way.
Could not work out a price for the gear and they dont want to change them at all.


Thanks
Chris

This is something that Daniel from Airlocker sent me a while ago. I'm looking to fit a Nissan HP into a LC60 housing

Anyways, our current model GQ front Air Locker model (RD136) was designed to accept our newer technology unified gear sizing which means you can purchase a gear set directly for it that has Toyota 30 spline geometry and swap it straight in.
The Toyota gear sets are ARB # 728H111.

[MQHOON]

Is this so toyota guys can point to their diffs and try and tell people that they are still toyota instead of the easier option of just putting the complete diff under the car?

But seriously is this really a better or easier option? Just curious.

it's so they can beef up the center without having to put up with the weak cheese crap nissan calls CV's.

hmmmm.... so us christie brothers hho dont give a crap about their truck only managed to break 1 short side cv in the whole life of the truck!!!!
Now thats a pretty strong cv! because we gave them somme curry!! go watch some old tufftruck vids and youll see!

[1MadEngineer]

i love this thread, i am learning so much!


like - diffs made by nissan are indestructible and will never break!





that is UNTIL, you put billet locking hubs on them, and then everything attached to the hubs will break.......... hahahahaha

[bad_religion_au]

Is this so toyota guys can point to their diffs and try and tell people that they are still toyota instead of the easier option of just putting the complete diff under the car?

But seriously is this really a better or easier option? Just curious.

it's so they can beef up the center without having to put up with the weak cheese crap nissan calls CV's.

hmmmm.... so us christie brothers hho dont give a crap about their truck only managed to break 1 short side cv in the whole life of the truck!!!!
Now thats a pretty strong cv! because we gave them somme curry!! go watch some old tufftruck vids and youll see!

and how many front 80 diffs has the megatwon broken, considering they are so weak too?

ok, 1 short side CV, how many hubs? Axle shafts? any other front axle carnage?

[ludacris]

Is this so toyota guys can point to their diffs and try and tell people that they are still toyota instead of the easier option of just putting the complete diff under the car?

But seriously is this really a better or easier option? Just curious.

it's so they can beef up the center without having to put up with the weak cheese crap nissan calls CV's.

hmmmm.... so us christie brothers hho dont give a crap about their truck only managed to break 1 short side cv in the whole life of the truck!!!!
Now thats a pretty strong cv! because we gave them somme curry!! go watch some old tufftruck vids and youll see!

and how many front 80 diffs has the megatwon broken, considering they are so weak too?

ok, 1 short side CV, how many hubs? Axle shafts? any other front axle carnage?

Like he said only one CV. This thread is just like saying my Mum is better than yours. Lets see how he goes with his eighty series diff when he does what he chooses to do Hey.

Cris

Cris

[zookisteve]

its already been proven that hilux diffs can be made way stronger then patrol diffs by team dgr.

there is an awesome thread on 4wda with all comparing measurements of cv's,axles and other things between partol and hilux and a hilux cv wont fit inside a gq housing if i remember correctly,as its bigger.

how many times has dgr driven to and from tuff truck and other comps?
i know for a fact that he only had to be trailered home form 1 tuff truck ever.

[bad_religion_au]

Like he said only one CV. This thread is just like saying my Mum is better than yours. Lets see how he goes with his eighty series diff when he does what he chooses to do Hey.

Cris

Cris

it's a valid question, if he's engineered his weak point to be the free wheeling hubs, and blows a hub every time out, only blowing "one cv" isn't really a good milestone, whereas if that CV is the only thing blown in his front end, it's a more impressive feat.

[MQHOON]

yep out of the whole life of our truck in all the comps only 1 (one)!! cv and that was the total amount of all drivetrain carnage, no freewheeling hubs no axles, no diffs, no pinions snapping off like some types, no driveshafts no gears breaking.

id say the patrol stuff is pretty good!

but now i have a sierra, and yes im putting toyota lux diffs in it!
but i will throw the original cv's in the bin and just run longfields and be done with it!

[nottie]

how many times has dgr driven to and from tuff truck and other comps?
i know for a fact that he only had to be trailered home form 1 tuff truck ever.

You are refering to 2005 when leonard in his 80 series towed it home cause micks patrol with the v6 commo motor couldnt tow it.?????????
If this is correct then if i remember right it wasnt towed cause of being broken either

[Mosko111]

Does anyone have any contact details for this Wally bloke? I have pm'd him but in guessing he hasn't been on here for ages,
it's just that I have a 60 series that I'm going to dismantle and sell all the parts seperately, and if I néed to I will keep the 60 series rear diff and see what can be done with it!

[DIRTY ROCK STAR]

Is this so toyota guys can point to their diffs and try and tell people that they are still toyota instead of the easier option of just putting the complete diff under the car?

But seriously is this really a better or easier option? Just curious.

it's so they can beef up the center without having to put up with the weak cheese crap nissan calls CV's.

hmmmm.... so us christie brothers hho dont give a crap about their truck only managed to break 1 short side cv in the whole life of the truck!!!!
Now thats a pretty strong cv! because we gave them somme curry!! go watch some old tufftruck vids and youll see!

and how many front 80 diffs has the megatwon broken, considering they are so weak too?

ok, 1 short side CV, how many hubs? Axle shafts? any other front axle carnage?

Haha, hey leave me out of this
Nah never broken a CV.
At TuffTruck this year i sheared the stubs off the drive flange.
I had heard previously from timmy redzook this may happen, so its being upgraded with Bobby Longfield components. I had stock 80 CVs, then changed to longfields, now the stocks are my spares.

[bj on roids]

Is this so toyota guys can point to their diffs and try and tell people that they are still toyota instead of the easier option of just putting the complete diff under the car?

But seriously is this really a better or easier option? Just curious.

The 80 series has better brakes, far better steering and panhard geometry and better suspension....

hmmm... I would say its a worthwhile upgrade.

[WICKED]

how many times has dgr driven to and from tuff truck and other comps?
i know for a fact that he only had to be trailered home form 1 tuff truck ever.

Dave has NEVER Driven too or From Tuff Truck. We towed him in 05, This year they used Greg's patrol. Other years I'm not sure who or how but it's never been DRIVEN to Tuff Truck.

If I remember correct the last time Dave drove to a comp he front flipped the car at rover and that was the end of the "Drive in Drive out" days.

[Rolly]

yep out of the whole life of our truck in all the comps only 1 (one)!! cv and that was the total amount of all drivetrain carnage, no freewheeling hubs no axles, no diffs, no pinions snapping off like some types, no driveshafts no gears breaking.

id say the patrol stuff is pretty good!

but now i have a sierra, and yes im putting toyota lux diffs in it!
but i will throw the original cv's in the bin and just run longfields and be done with it!

Well that makes atleast two Tuff Truck style of vehicles that have run big tyres and had very little issues with nissan gear. In the 6 years of running a GU front, I have only ever snapped one stub. That was helped by different diff ratios, and being completely wedged in Devils Marbles. Yes you can spend the money, and make something stronger... Yes brand loyalty I can understand, but throwing away money may not be everyones cup of tea. EG laurie put nissan rear in his hilux before OBC, and hasnt had an issue, but the toyota front let him down early in the event.

Mosko, don't be put off by some of the comments on this forum. If it wasn't a proven conversion, no-one would be doing it. Either way, a complete front GU, or grafted centre should stand up to any comp you want to do, but keep in mind, a lot comes down to driving style and horse power.

Regards Brett

[Mosko111]

Well we found that the nut on the back of the pinion where the tailshaft attaches somehow stripped the thread, then the pinion wasn't el in place and locked up the cntre causing teeth to get wrecked, so we at going to double nut it and try again..... If not who knows what he will do

[Willy Hilux]

Read up on the diff installs from this web site. It will tell you how to set up a diff for comp use. I wouldn't do it for a daily driver. I got my diff guy to set my 4.3 hilux hi-pinion this way (without a solid spacer as the one I got didn't fit). Only done one comp but will see how it lasts.

http://gearinstalls.com/

[sloshy]

http://gearinstalls.com/

Which one is it?

EDIT- found em.

[RUFF]

how many times has dgr driven to and from tuff truck and other comps?
i know for a fact that he only had to be trailered home form 1 tuff truck ever.

Dave has NEVER Driven too or From Tuff Truck. We towed him in 05, This year they used Greg's patrol. Other years I'm not sure who or how but it's never been DRIVEN to Tuff Truck.

If I remember correct the last time Dave drove to a comp he front flipped the car at rover and that was the end of the "Drive in Drive out" days.

You really should check your "FACTS" before shooting your mouth off Ben. Dave has Driven to Tuff Truck and home in the past.

[The Fish]

Does anyone have any contact details for this Wally bloke?

You have a PM

[Willy Hilux]

I just got onto Bubs and he will graft GU center onto toyota axle tubes if ya looking for someone.

His work is TOPS and ya know ya gunna get a good job for him.

[bubs]

I just got onto Bubs and he will graft GU center onto toyota axle tubes if ya looking for someone.

His work is TOPS and ya know ya gunna get a good job for him.

Sorry I would not be grafting a GU centre in to existing Toyota tubes, it will be from scratch only thing second hand will be the ball ends.

Like attached without radius arm mounts is $950

[nottie]

Ben at Ruff said mate. Check your facts.
Also in O5 you didnt tow it both ways did you.

[Mosko111]

How muchstronger are the housings?? And do they weigh much more?

[WICKED]

how many times has dgr driven to and from tuff truck and other comps?
i know for a fact that he only had to be trailered home form 1 tuff truck ever.

Dave has NEVER Driven too or From Tuff Truck. We towed him in 05, This year they used Greg's patrol. Other years I'm not sure who or how but it's never been DRIVEN to Tuff Truck.

If I remember correct the last time Dave drove to a comp he front flipped the car at rover and that was the end of the "Drive in Drive out" days.

You really should check your "FACTS" before shooting your mouth off Ben. Dave has Driven to Tuff Truck and home in the past.

Dates?

Nottie - honestly can't remember but guessing not?

[bru21]

Thats WAAAAYY cheap bubs!

Mass produced hilux stuff in the US is that price in USD

Good work!

You are on your way to building the 'peoples diff' like VW did with the beetle!

[RUFF]

Dates?

You tell me. Your so sure its never been done.

[WICKED]

Dates?

You tell me. Your so sure its never been done.

I said never so why would I know when?. You saud it has, you tell me when.

[flexytj]

I just got onto Bubs and he will graft GU center onto toyota axle tubes if ya looking for someone.

His work is TOPS and ya know ya gunna get a good job for him.

Sorry I would not be grafting a GU centre in to existing Toyota tubes, it will be from scratch only thing second hand will be the ball ends.

Like attached without radius arm mounts is $950

of death that is a mint housing

[Aussiead]

Dates?

You tell me. Your so sure its never been done.

I said never so why would I know when?. You saud it has, you tell me when.

From team DGR website...

Not Tuff Truck specific, but implys it none the less..

"What set team DGR apart from most of the other competitors, is not only their enthusiasm to compete but the fact that the Hilux (competition vehicle) was a daily driven registered work ute throughout 2004 and 2005 that drove to and from events – and only once never made it home after a high speed multiple roll over."