What sort of 4x4 should be at Tuff Truck

Post by **sammyv8** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 4:30 pm

What are peoples opinions on the type of truck. Should it stay to street legal vechiles (well almost street legal) or should buggies be included. Should there be a limit on tyre size or should it go by percentage above MRFT.

What are your thoughts.

Seeya
SammyV8

Post by **Wendle** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 4:52 pm

it's called "tuff truck"
bring what you've got, no holds barred. no RTA acceptable bullshit, toughest truck wins.

Post by **Britswed** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 6:00 pm

road registerd to outlaw but points must be well fair

my 1 cent

Cheers Mal

Post by **Fieldsy** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 6:10 pm

I like the idea of all trucks being registered but the problem is that drivers that live in say Queensland have to comply with different transport regulations than someone in say NSW. eg. If I lived in NSW I could have a spoa but because I live in Queensland I can’t have a spoa so I am therefore at a disadvantage. Please note the spoa is just an example.

Post by **Tojo** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 6:42 pm

same as what Wendle said. The registration requirement is rediculous. Bring what you have. Only one class. No restrictions as long as safetly requirements are met. If your trucks not tuff enough to compete then stay home. This is meant to be find Australias tuffest truck.

Post by **Midget** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 9:47 pm

I agree,Bring what you have.
Provided that all the safety requirements are followed,Allow everything from Zooks to the full tube buggys.
Thats what the spectators pay there money to see,not just road rego'd rigs.
And as they say it's called TUFF TRUCK for a reason, to find The tuffest in OZ.

Jamie

Post by **POS** » Fri Mar 26, 2004 10:03 pm

I would like to see TUFF TRUCK be open to ALL types!

From fully engineered to PURPOSE built tube buggies!

I would love to see something like the Mogrover, Ballsac's rig or Dobbins truck up against a USA style light weight BUGGY!

Also for a COMPETITOR a fully built tube buggy offers 100 times more protection in a serious rollover than a hilux cab or suzuki cab!

I don't think there needs to be a limit or restristion on tyre size, you just need to build the course's so there is no major advantage in running huge tyres, eg Get rid of the Small pebbly crappy rocks and just have huge ROCK FACES!!!!

Also no point in having someone penalised for having a bigger truck or more h/power etc etc as we want to see WHO has the TUFFEST TRUCK, if something is not good enough to keep up with the pack than it obviously isn't TUFF ENOUGH!!!!!

Also More and more people are realising that it is cheaper and MORE FUN to build a buggy than it is to build up a registered rig. Meaning that there will be more and more need for Unregistered comps!!!

Last year there was only 2 "Tube Buggies" now there are at least 6 ready or soon to be ready to compete!

Post by **big red** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 9:26 pm

should be anything goes i reckon

Post by **Strange Rover** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 10:06 pm

big red wrote:should be anything goes i reckon

I almost of the opinion that the rigs should be road vehicle based (dont know how you could determine that).

I think the tube buggies should do their own thing.

Although I can appreciate the view to let absolutely anything compete to find the true tuffest. Its just that I think that tuff truck should be something different from what it looks like the rockcrawling comps are going to turn into (I think our rockcrawling will develop the same way as the US) and this isnt a place for rigs that are road based IMO.

Sam

Post by **N*A*M** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 10:06 pm

stock rigs only

Post by **ToNkA** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 10:22 pm

2wd's! only!

Post by **Midget** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 10:34 pm

ToNkA wrote:2wd's! only!

So we get to drive your mums car. :lol:

Jamie

Post by **ToNkA** » Sat Mar 27, 2004 10:38 pm

Fourwheelin wrote:
ToNkA wrote:2wd's! only!

So we get to drive your mums car.

Jamie

was that funny?

Post by **Singo17** » Sun Mar 28, 2004 10:26 pm

How many times has this crap come up on Snake, OuterL etc. It is never going to get defined except against the rules of the current competition.

That is what defines a Tuff Truck in the TTC. The competition name isn't correct if you look at all the previous arguments gone before as many have valid arguments of Tuff Trucks by definition that aren't allowed to compete in the TTC.

It should be "Tuffest Registered Truck Challenge", Or the "First amaze us with how you got the thing registered then get it awwwn Tuff Truck Challenge". Or the "Buy as many votes as you can and you have a Tuff Truck by Definiton Tuff Truck Challenge"

Anyway you look at the comp it is defined by its rules not it's name which is what most would like to see.

Er a Tonka Truck push race anyone?

Post by **grimbo** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:47 am

Alot of it comes down to insurance and road registerd vehicles sounds alot more promisinf to an insurance company than outlaw or anything goes. I like the idea that they are road registered. I think the vehicle should be capable of doing all the events, looks good and can be driven on the roads. I reckon leave the outlaw stuff to the Willowglens and the rock crawling events

Post by **bigsteve** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 4:34 pm

If I pay my hard earned money to see Tuff trucks I wanna see the tuffest trucks.

If I want rego friendly GQ's on 35inch simexes I buy 4wd Monthly.

Post by **MissDrew** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:20 pm

POS wrote:Also for a COMPETITOR a fully built tube buggy offers 100 times more protection in a serious rollover than a hilux cab or suzuki cab!

Agreed

Strange Rover wrote:I almost of the opinion that the rigs should be road vehicle based (dont know how you could determine that).

I think the tube buggies should do their own thing.

Although I can appreciate the view to let absolutely anything compete to find the true tuffest. Its just that I think that tuff truck should be something different from what it looks like the rockcrawling comps are going to turn into (I think our rockcrawling will develop the same way as the US) and this isnt a place for rigs that are road based IMO.

Sam

Agreed, But I think it will take longer for our rock crawling comps to get to the same point as the usa comps took to get to where they are now. Simply because we don`t have the numbers they do.

Post by **Josh_GQ** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 8:55 pm

definently against registered.
if you live in qld that means 2 inch lift and 33's, legally, i know im certainly not going to pay to see that, i can go anywhere and see much tougher trucks for free

Post by **zookjedi** » Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:14 pm

change the rules to suit the name ,tuff truck!

anything goes !

Post by **Samuel** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 7:07 pm

There should be 2 classes,

Modified and Outlaw.

Modified being a car that is built on a chassis and body that was for sale in australia, modifications should be unlimited.

Outlaw being a complete custom chassis. but can have traits of a factory car, much like Overkills purple beast, resembles a sierra, but its not.

That way we have the best of both worlds, the truly modified, and the truly outrageous

.

Id pay for that

Post by **beebee** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 11:15 pm

Samuel wrote:There should be 2 classes,

Modified and Outlaw.

Modified being a car that is built on a chassis and body that was for sale in australia, modifications should be unlimited.

Outlaw being a complete custom chassis. but can have traits of a factory car, much like Overkills purple beast, resembles a sierra, but its not.

That way we have the best of both worlds, the truly modified, and the truly outrageous .

Id pay for that

So Strange Rover's mogrover would be in modified whilst his lockless would be in outlaw. Doesn't seem entirely fair. We don't have enough buggies yet IMHO.

redlux · Post by **redlux** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:34 am

maybe rego'd and not rego'd

Post by **Aza** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:14 pm

i think it should be everyone competes together, registration cant just fly out the window, like who would be proud to say they won tuff truck in modified class? if they won that they should be wheeling with the 'big boys'. everyone knows it aint just the car but the car and the driver, some guy may have a car that is able to enter outlaw class but would get its ass wiped in comp by a 'modified' class competor due to they suck and cant drive

get my point everyone should compete together in a comp like this it is after all one of the biggest events on the 4x4 calender :armsup:

Post by **Samuel** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 6:49 pm

Thats the whole idea of competition isn't it? If you or your car suck, you loose! If your a bad driver in a good car, then you got to fix your driving skills. Good driver in a shitbox, then u got to fix the car.

Racing (loose term, i know) betters the breed. If you suck and loose, its your own fault!

Post by **tuff 45** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:23 pm

Samuel wrote:Thats the whole idea of competition isn't it? If you or your car suck, you loose! If your a bad driver in a good car, then you got to fix your driving skills. Good driver in a shitbox, then u got to fix the car.

Racing (loose term, i know) betters the breed. If you suck and loose, its your own fault!

Should have a registered tuff truck competition and a non registered open class tuff truck competition.

Post by **+dj_hansen+** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:28 pm

fully open class... let the tuffest truck win.

Post by **Rhett** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:15 pm

but when is a truck not a truck?

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