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Trail gear suspension

Tech Talk for Cruiser owners.

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Trail gear suspension

Post by MUDHOR »

Hey guys
This topic prob has a few threads going already..

I got a 95 dual cab lux and thinking about putting trailgear 3'' front and rear suspension setup. Would like peoples thoughts on how they handle on road as the hilux is my daily driver.

Few pics of your rigs in action would be good.

Cheers..
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by banks001 »

prepare for a big argument as this subject is always argued about,

if your made of money n have 5 grand or so to spend go for it,

i persoally would go with

gettin high steer done
get some ifs rears with extended shackles
chuck ur old rear springs up front with extended shackles
measure up so shocks n shock hoops

and the wold is ur oyster :armsup:

that would be arond the 1 grand mark


hope this helps

cheers
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by Zuri92 »

go with RUF much cheaper for the same gains.
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by banks001 »

RUF is the way :armsup:
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by Rory »

i though RUFF was a mod on here?
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by banks001 »

:shock:
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by ciemopar »

I have the 3" kit in the front and rear of my 85 hilux and find it quite good on road and awesome offroad. Quite expensive but.
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by blu100 »

is it just the stock ifs rears or do they have to be lifted
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by Zuri92 »

stock ifs leaves with 200 mm shackles (i have the plates you can have them for free just pm me) give you 2inch lift ish, rears up front with a slight play gives similar, very cheap, works very well

RUF is rears up front

and yes RUFF (2 f's) is head honcho of this here forum

search it, all the answers are here and are also in the hilux bible
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by Rory »

oh rufs a spring mod, and RUFFS a mod mod! noted
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by metak »

I hate to say it but 1g ain't going to cover ifs ruf and hi steer its more like 2 depending on what shocks you run hi steer is like 800 plus ifs box 200 ish ifs springs 50 to 150 shackles new from bubs 160 per set dropped front hanger 90 shock hoops 140 ish then you will want u bolt flip kits 130 a set and you will have to remount the rear shocks you can buy the parts or make it to suit your needs I think its around the 150 to 200 mark then front tail shaft needs to be longer as do brake lines then that still leaves shocks to buy of course the more 2nd hand parts you get the cheaper it gets just a heads up in the process of doing mine
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by MUDHOR »

Appreciate the feedback guys thank-you.
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by banks001 »

maybe if u buy stuff new

i already had extended brake lines which most people have, and ubolt flip isnt a must, when ever u have spare coin u could get them

for example

steering box and highsteer arms cost me 350
i got cross over steering which the arm was 160 but highsteer is 350 for knuckle arms
bracket from bud 60
superior shackles i picked up for 40 a while back
rear springs u can pick up anywhere maybe like 100
shock hoops 160
shocks 240

$1100, plus install of ur steering box $200- $1310 :finger:

all about where u look and who u no :armsup:

its the poor mans trail gear, that works just aswell

or just get air locker front n rear and dont worry about suspension lol
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by johnsy86 »

your money get what u want, if u wanna spend big$$ go trailgear, if u wanna get similar results for less go RUF and IFS or falcon rears.
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by a1 mech »

I have 3" IFS eliminator kit in the front of my 4runner and 4" rears with inverted shocks. The TG setup works aweosme offroad and if u buy when the dollar is good, isnt to expensive. The onroad handling is fair, the leafs are very soft so in a straight line they are great on the other hand very boaty on corners but u get that.

If u dont all ready know locktup4x4 are the aussie distributor of TG parts so hav a look on ther site as Chris often has some good prices, very good customer service to.
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by MUDHOR »

Thanks Guys..

This could be a stupid question but if i do a ruff do i need to put a crossover steering??

Few pics of your set up would be good

cheers
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by monster12 »

banks001 wrote:prepare for a big argument as this subject is always argued about,

if your made of money n have 5 grand or so to spend go for it,

i persoally would go with

gettin high steer done
get some ifs rears with extended shackles
chuck ur old rear springs up front with extended shackles
measure up so shocks n shock hoops

and the wold is ur oyster :armsup:

that would be arond the 1 grand mark


hope this helps

cheers

please explain to everyone why it would cost 5k?
are you using tools made of gold?
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by a1 mech »

MUDHOR wrote:Thanks Guys..

This could be a stupid question but if i do a ruff do i need to put a crossover steering??

Few pics of your set up would be good

cheers
In short yes highsteer is the way to go if your aiming for decent downtravel in the front end.
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by banks001 »

monster12 wrote:
banks001 wrote:prepare for a big argument as this subject is always argued about,

if your made of money n have 5 grand or so to spend go for it,

i persoally would go with

gettin high steer done
get some ifs rears with extended shackles
chuck ur old rear springs up front with extended shackles
measure up so shocks n shock hoops

and the wold is ur oyster :armsup:

that would be arond the 1 grand mark


hope this helps

cheers

please explain to everyone why it would cost 5k?
are you using tools made of gold?

front classic trail gear is $2,299
classic rear is $1,499
ifs box is around what $200?
mounting bracket $60
=$4058, plus all the lill things griding blades, welding accessories, clamps

or someone to install it all might cost a grand or two

:D
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by Rory »

hows ur shovel going after that dig?
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by Zuri92 »

probably pretty good still, wasnt a very large thread to dig up so only a small hole. but considering he is talking about saving money he probably saved on the shovel aswell, meaning its a cheap one and only good for one hole, so it might be stuffed.

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Post by Rory »

hes a apprentice, the companys prob hooked him up with a good shovel to get the hours up
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by johnsy86 »

leafs are shit coilovers is where its at rory :rofl:
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by banks001 »

Rory wrote:hes a apprentice, the companys prob hooked him up with a good shovel to get the hours up
WHAT! i didnt get a shovle? maybe i should of used my tools for my trade for tools instead of reinbursing to to spend on my hilux :D

haha isnt that wat apprentices are for? digging a hole? then being told to fill it back in lol.

nah yeah was ages ago i was just looking threw trail gear stuff on google n it came up n clicked on it and realised its something ive already commented on :D

yeah johnsy your right
but
i thought coilovers were to get your car even lower than standard springs?

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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by johnsy86 »

banks001 wrote:
Rory wrote:hes a apprentice, the companys prob hooked him up with a good shovel to get the hours up
WHAT! i didnt get a shovle? maybe i should of used my tools for my trade for tools instead of reinbursing to to spend on my hilux :D

haha isnt that wat apprentices are for? digging a hole? then being told to fill it back in lol.

nah yeah was ages ago i was just looking threw trail gear stuff on google n it came up n clicked on it and realised its something ive already commented on :D

yeah johnsy your right
but
i thought coilovers were to get your car even lower than standard springs?

:rofl: jks
they will cause im running coilovers front n rear,flat belly height will be around 20" on 40" tyres :finger:
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by banks001 »

:armsup:
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by Rory »

yea well my belly heights gunna be 40" on 20" rims brooooooo
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by Willy Hilux »

johnsy86 wrote:
banks001 wrote:
Rory wrote:hes a apprentice, the companys prob hooked him up with a good shovel to get the hours up
WHAT! i didnt get a shovle? maybe i should of used my tools for my trade for tools instead of reinbursing to to spend on my hilux :D

haha isnt that wat apprentices are for? digging a hole? then being told to fill it back in lol.

nah yeah was ages ago i was just looking threw trail gear stuff on google n it came up n clicked on it and realised its something ive already commented on :D

yeah johnsy your right
but
i thought coilovers were to get your car even lower than standard springs?

:rofl: jks
they will cause im running coilovers front n rear,flat belly height will be around 20" on 40" tyres :finger:

All talk and no pics....... :finger:
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by Rory »

dont say im all talk! ill have my 40" belly height u just wait....

OH ur talking bout johnsy....
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Re: Trail gear suspension

Post by johnsy86 »

i am all talk but lol, something along the lines of what was described above might make an appearence at the hilux meet if i ever finish it . ;)
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