Engineering Non Standard Engines

[greg]

Hi All,

I've made the initial approach toward an Engineer to see about getting my monstosity of a vehicle engineered.

The first piece of feedback that I have received from him in regards to this has been concerning ADR37 - EMISSION CONTROL FOR LIGHT VEHICLES.

So far it is looking as though i will need to get my car (including import engine) independently tested somewhere in Melbourne to prove that it meets Australian Standards (rather than the Japanese standards from where the engine came).

Can anyone give me some advise about where to go to get this done, or what i can do to ensure that i pass? etc...

I'll keep you all posted on this rather interesting issue.

Thanks in advance,
Greg

[ca18escort]

was it ADR37/00 or 01? what are the specs for your vehicle and engine. I have a copy of the adr so I can have a look at the aplicability for you.

Cheers
Paul

[zooki]

You have a cappa motor right? Surely that would meen that the engine already has ADR aproval as it fitted to a car that can be registered in Aus?

[cj]

Greg,
I talked to an engineer awhile back about changing engines and he mentioned among other things the emission issue. If I recall correctly he talked about needing to use an engine from the same year or newer as the vehicle being fitted to. He also mentioned that it would be advisable to have the computer from a local vehicle not the import so you could just borrow one so that he could see the numbers on the unit were from an ADR approved vehicle. There were dates though where these rules didn't apply depending on the age of the vehicle. He also mentioned weight of replacement engine as an issue. Check these out as they are just recollections from a conversation and each engineer seems to have their own rules.

[auto_eng]

More info

What is your vehicle? Make/Model and date of manufacture

What is your engine and where did you source it?

[greg]

was it ADR37/00 or 01? what are the specs for your vehicle and engine. I have a copy of the adr so I can have a look at the aplicability for you.

Cheers
Paul

Hi Paul,

My car is a 1990 Suzuki Sierra. The motor that i am trying to get engineered is a 1992 Suzuki Cappuccino.

I don't know if it was 37-00 or 01 though...

Any advise would be great.

Thanks mate,
Greg

[greg]

You have a cappa motor right? Surely that would meen that the engine already has ADR aproval as it fitted to a car that can be registered in Aus?

This is the path that i am taking so far - i have hunted down a guy that used to import Cap's, and i have spoken to him but he no longer has the docco confirming that Cap's met Aust Standards for emmissions... He has given me the name of the company that did the engineering for him, they have just confirmed that they have this documentation that i require, but they need him to confirm that he is happy for me to have it (since it is owned by him)...

So now i have some more polite requests to make to this fellow to try to get it sorted.... fingers crossed

[greg]

A bit of a follow up on this topic.

Apparently the test that i need to have performed is ADR37/00 - ADR37/01 Exhaust Emissions Test (Exhaust Emissions Only) on a Petrol Driven Car. (i.e. no Evaporative Emission Test is required).

The way emissions rules seem to work deems that even though a Cappuccino can be complied and driven around in Australia, because my car exceeds more than 112kgs of the curb weight of a Cappuccino - my car needs to be tested. Alas.

So even if i get documentation saying that a Cappuccino can be complied in Australia will no changes to its emissions, I am still required to get these tests done, and still required to pass them.

How much is the test you ask? More than the cost of the original half cut

And sadly there is no guarantee that i will pass the test anyway.

Infact, Apparently there was recently a fellow who got an imported Viper passed though these emmissions tests and it took him 37 attempts to get it passed

Well - if anyone has some advise on this - it would be most helpful.

[ca18escort]

Your vehicle class is MC
OFF-ROAD PASSENGER VEHICLE (MC)
A passenger vehicle having up to 9 seating positions, including that of the driver and being designed
with special features for off-road operation. A vehicle with special features for off-road operation is a
vehicle that:
(a) Unless otherwise ‘Approved‘ has 4 wheel drive; and
(b) has at least 4 of the following 5 characteristics calculated when the vehicle is at its ‘Unladen
Mass‘ on a level surface, with the front wheels parallel to the vehicle’s longitudinal centreline, and the
tyres inflated to the ‘Manufacturer‘s’ recommended pressure:(i) ‘Approach Angle‘ of not less than 28 degrees;
(ii) ‘Breakover Angle‘ of not less than 14 degrees;
(iii) ‘Departure Angle‘ of not less than 20 degrees;
(iv) ‘Running Clearance‘ of not less than 200 mm;
(v) ‘Front Axle Clearance‘, ‘Rear Axle Clearance‘ or ‘Suspension Clearance‘ of not less than 175
mm each.

You are to comply with ADR 37/00 of which I have a copy in PDF format. If you want me to email it too you give me a yell. The change over from ADR27a to ADR37/00 was in 1988.

Cheers
Paul

P.S. it will be tested aginst the year of the engine as it is newer than the car. The other point to note is that unless you are running the std computer your are probably going to have some problems.